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> ...and another theories say human and dinosaurs live coexist.

Are you sure that wasn't a movie?

I've never heard of the theory that humans and dinosaurs coexisted, at least not with credible evidence. It's probably something the creationists propagated.

Evolution is partly by chance. But evolution takes millions of years. So basically, what are the chances of something like humans eventually coming along? Well apparently after millions and millions of years and countless iterations of random morphs the chances are good.

It's like a startup, except without smart founders behind it. That's why it takes so long and so many iterations before evolution gets it "right." With a startup if you get something wrong you change it because the previous method failed (if you don't change it the startup fails). In evolution the species that doesn't get it "right" fails. The iteration of the species that does get it right obviously continues to thrive. So over millions of years there are constantly new iterations and the best ones make it through to now.

If this is new to you, it shouldn't be. Where are you from? As far as I know all schools in the US should get you up to speed with evolution. But judging from your writing you're probably not from an english speaking country?

i came from east, Indonesia, where most people here had a strong faith with their religion. No, we didn't learn much about evolution here, the only thing that we learned about evolution in school was about some species of bird in Galapos islands, that's it.

Because of the environment where i live, i did not have a good resources like sciences book, articles that cover it up. it's not even something that you can talk along with your teacher/professor/people, because of the strong culture and religion here. Even if i ask some of the "smart" people here i can guest what their answer, "it's not true" end of discussion.

Then, recently, i read a lot of news/articles about evolution in internet, first i just skip it and then later thought come to my mind, "why, why science peoples and some people had very strong opinion/faith about evolution". i really want to know base of their opinion/faith.

Reading some or any articles in Internet it's just not enough, because some of them will accept it and some of them will denied it. seriously, no one just can change their faith just because read some paper ? it take some serious talk, arguing, and sometime some prove. right ?

i know that by asking question or discussing about evolution here will not fulfill the void in my mind, first, not every people here is evolutionist; second, i believe it will be a long, long, discussion.

so, as a first step i some of question that i keep long enough in my mind here (as you can see above, voted down to minus. i hope it's just because my writing skill, not because my stupidity and curiosity ;). i hope some one understand my position here.

to continue our discussion,

Are you sure that wasn't a movie?

no, it was some article i read. See, this is where i become hard to believe just any article i read.

In evolution the species that doesn't get it "right" fails.

part of me believed that was true, because i see and read some species become extinct. if i am not wrong, some species in north pole.

If you reason it out, you can see why species that are weaker fail, and their genes are not passed down. After millions of years of filtering down: survival of the fittest, and mutations, which introduce new sets of genes of genes into the mix, we get the better So called "evolved" genes in the end.

Also evolution is not faith based like religion, it is evidence based. I wouldn't really say it's an opinion or preference.

I don't know why people are so trigger happy with the down votes. for the record I didn't down vote you. I think it was 'cause your comments were a little confusing, but that doesn't merit a downvote in my opinion.

Let me know if you have any more questions.

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