Edit. My comment was not excusing the actions of the NSA. I think that human rights should be protected at all costs and the spying should stop. I just think that a real threat probably does exist and this creates a catch 22 in a political sense.
Edit. My comment was not excusing the actions of the NSA. I think that human rights should be protected at all costs and the spying should stop. I just think that a real threat probably does exist and this creates a catch 22 in a political sense.
It's just that they're counting on people like you to routinely show up when people point out their criminal actions and go "But what about the terrorists?"
Terrorists over the last decade (let's call it 15 years, to include 9/11) have killed fewer Americans than the lies of the president backed by secretive intelligence agencies fabricating evidence to shape politics.
They've also killed fewer Americans than trigger happy police officers.
They've killed fewer Americans - by two orders of magnitude! - than car crashes. In fact, in 2001, about an order of magnitude more people died in car crashes than in the 9/11 attacks.
The danger to the US is not terrorists, because they have a very limited capacity to cause actual harm. Instead, they rely on cowards who can't deal with being hurt without flying in to a blind panic/rage harming themselves as an after effect.
People making the arguments that you raise here do vastly more harm to the nation than terrorists ever directly could, and in fact, were a key portion of Osama bin Laden's plan to dismantle the United States - a feat he could never have hoped to accomplish directly, but which he seems to have made substantial progress at through the combination of public panic, the arguments raised by you here, and the short-sighted power grab of politicians.
Congratulations: you're raising an argument that's part of a trio of forces destroying the US at the behest of a terrorist. Far from your line of thinking stopping terrorists, you're enabling them to win, something that they could never have hoped to accomplish without assistance.
Terrorism and police brutality are both law enforcement problems, and the solution is the same: enforce the existing law, impartially, publicly and universally.
The additional problem of terrorism is trying to fight it in other people's countries, where the enforcement brutality is even more of a problem. If you count the Iraq war as "anti-terrorism", then the effect of US anti-terrorism has been to kill, injure, abuse or displace far more people than Al-Quaida. ISIS are more deadly still, but they should be regarded as a hostile state rather than a terrorist group.
As an aside, terrorism as a general thing isn't new. The US was founded with an act of what would now be considered terrorism (the Boston tea party). Americans are so hung up on their constitution, but they don't believe the founding fathers considered these situations when drafting it? Or did 'talking to each other more efficiently' so radically change things in ways they couldn't foresee?
This is the first sentence of your comment.
"the only answer the government have is to take away even more privacy"
Is in there too.
If the government doesn't have alternative ways readily available, then you are saying violating privacy is the only way to fight terrorism we have right now. This is demonstrably not true, since they do use a lot of better ways. There are many more ways to combat terrorism that they haven't even tried on any scale yet (at least publicly). The very premise that the NSA's actions are justified because the threat mandates it is flawed.
Most of what the NSA does is geopolitical in nature. They are barely involved in CT activity (they do only minor amounts of CT).