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Not to mention the news that Blackberry started giving Indian and Saudi Arabia governments access to their encrypted data actually hurt Blackberry's image in enterprise.

Also some countries are banning US tech companies now not because they encrypt stuff but because they give access to the US government to their citizens' data (including officials). Maybe it's true maybe it's not, but they have the right to question it and protect against it. If companies had end-to-end encryption and even they couldn't look at the data, I have a feeling those officials would trust them a little more.

I also find it hilarious that Baker is straight out suggesting "we should be more like China" when it comes to surveillance. How is he not being laughed out of the building?

Hm, maybe Apple can do that, but for Google not looking at the data is not an option, it's the core business. For facebook too. However maybe, just maybe, they can come up with a way to share with governments only a small fraction, protecting their customers/users. I don't see how, but their engineers are smart, they could figure out something that works.

It's not just NSA or the US here. These corporations are multinational, operating on many different countries. Once the NSA has officially stepped foot in Google's data so will do the EU, Japan, China, etc.

Subscription services are almost always more profitable than ad supported services. If encrypted gmail and hangouts were priced like the storage I buy from Google, I'd be a paying customer.

I personally prefer it as well, but I imagine that statement is hard to back up (although I wish it is true). Did you mean specifically profitable or income related?

IIRC Blackberry gave PIN-based/consumer/BIS messaging keys to those governments, and had key escrow for BES deployed in country, but when I took a US-BES Blackberry into UAE, India, KSA, etc., I still had end to end protection.

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