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You're welcome.

FWIW, one of the most commonly believed things about Japan (domestically and internationally) that I believe is dangerously false is some variant of "Japan is not good at coming up with original ideas. It is good at perfecting ideas made elsewhere." There exist fields/time periods/etc where Japan has clear sustained leadership in innovation, just as there exist fields/time periods/etc where the same is true of the US.

"CRUD web applications between 2004 and 2014" has not been a particularly great example of Japanese technology leadership. Videogames in the 80s/90s/2000s or "Every mobile music device prior to the iPod" or "Robots, 1970 through present, excluding drones 2010-2014" or "Cell phones considered as hardware artifacts, prior to the iPhone turning them into software platforms" are all good examples.

>FWIW, one of the most commonly believed things about Japan (domestically and internationally) that I believe is dangerously false is some variant of "Japan is not good at coming up with original ideas. It is good at perfecting ideas made elsewhere."

Did anyone ever really believe that? When a company is new to a market or behind the market leader they tend to copy the leader and add their own small innovations. That's what the Japanese did in the '70s and '80s. When they took the lead in an industry they were the ones doing the innovation, for the most part.

I remember the "Japan is going to take over the world!" days. American companies (and workers) were fond of saying the Japanese never had an original idea, but even then it was obviously sour grapes from incumbents facing determined competition.

You hear the same thing about China today, and it's just as wrong.

It was common in the 80s and 90s when JIT and other efficiency ideas were actually exported from America to Japan, when unions ruled American automakers. As history shows, the Japanese took this margin and crushed American carmakers for decades; the pendulum is only recently swinging back (and that's with government intervention to avoid US automaker collapse due to their own incompetence).

It's not true, but that was a big driver of the sentiment.

The first half is demonstrably false; the second half--Japan excels at perfecting imported ideas--seems more accurate to me. What's your take?

its amazing what a few sentences can do to dispel that pervasive belief.

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