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<smallrant> - Equal pay isn't so much about the money as it is about the value and dignity of all people to have their time valued. Time is the most important resource for us all that we can't get more of. If you can't pay someone enough money to do a job for them to live, then maybe that job doesn't need done, or you need to reevaluate how you value people.</smallrant>
There's literally thousands of them.
http://www.urban.org/uploadedpdf/411382_surve.pdf
http://www.fns.usda.gov/sites/default/files/SpendingPatterns...
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14690040
http://www.uctc.net/access/23/Access%2023%20-%2007%20-%20THE...
http://www.americaspower.org/sites/default/files/Trisko_2014...
http://www.mathematica-mpr.com/~/media/publications/PDFs/nut...
http://www.npc.umich.edu/publications/u/working_paper06-36.p...
Part of the problem is that you can find a huge corpus of studies that support pretty much whatever position you want to take.
- You think poor people are shiftless layabouts who spend all their money on trivial garbage? There's a whole series of think tanks putting out papers that agree with you.
- You think poor people are noble hard workers who through sheer bad luck or malice by the upper classes have ended up in a place where they can barely get by? I could get you a 1,000 pages of studies by Wednesday on that.
and so on.
Because the studies are so voluminous, you can also find almost impossibly fine-grained studies, like "A study on petroleum energy costs as a percent of net-income for single white mothers in non-coastal states" or whatever.
It takes almost impossibly focused and thorough critical thinking to assemble conclusions from this flood and it turns out taking meaningful action is even harder.
I'm not looking to give answers as to reasons for their situation... I just want to know how they survive from one area to the next in that situation.
It makes policy decisions, even at the state level, very difficult.
There's probably a good opportunity for an app/service/startup that makes recording this institutional knowledge more seamless for the on-the-ground "do-ers," but I'm not sure what the business model would be.
Most government social programs take bids for outside companies to do technical assistance or manage the grant's data. Get an office on K Street in Washington D.C. and bid on that part of the grant.
Just a little link on the minimum wage. http://www.dol.gov/minwage/mythbuster.htm (this thread is starting to drift a bit, sorry)
They should just make increases to the minimum automatic and then congress doesn't have to worry about appearing to harm businesses when they are actually not.
It's a good example of lawmakers doing something stupid that harms real people just to "appear" to be pro-business or fiscal conservative.
You also have the chronically unemployed in both the U.S. as well as places like France where it's livable to simply collect the government check.
Minimum wage shouldn't be a career. I have little sympathy for those who haves worked minimum wage for ten years or more. That suggests a lack of ambition, intelligence or both. Even the pimple faced 16 year old at Chick fil'a eventually gets promoted to team leader potentially in a matter of months or a year. Those who have worked minimum wage for 5 years or more, I'd be very interested in their work history, their criminal record, their tardiness, their productivity.
At a place like McDonalds, if you just show up on time consistently, you get raises. If you're a hard worker and express the desire there are plenty of assistant manager trainee tracks available.
Raising minimum wage isn't the answer -- taking away the incentive to be lazy would do more than throwing people an extra $2 per hour. The same bad decisions that got them in that situation are still the same bad decisions that they will keep making; unless there is incentive to stop.
Someone right now could go to North Dakota and get a job doing local truck deliveries paying up to $100k per year, some positions will even train. Working in the oil patch down in Texas and Louisiana offers high paying entry level positions that quickly end up paying over $100k.
My point is that there is always a way out of a minimum wage existence, the problem is that many people are content getting their free Medicaid, EBT cards and subsidized housing; so there is less incentive to move across the country or take a class somewhere or join a union apprentice program.
I am not saying end welfare or anything like that, but a safety net ought not become a way of life as it has for millions of people.
Sure there are some studies that say it doesn't. http://www.irle.berkeley.edu/workingpapers/157-07.pdf
But it's a point of contention with economists.
In any case your examples are a gross simplification based on anectodes and reduced to typical republican/libertarian talking points.
France is basically a socialist country, so there is a lot more going on there other than minimum wage. It's difficult to compare with other countries, because there are different tax rates and other social programs like free health Universal care that make the costs of being poor less.
But within the U.S., minimum wage varies by state, right? So PA has a $7.25 minimum while CA has $9.00. What is the unemployment rate difference between those two states?
Minimum wage has been increased dozens of times over the past few decades. There is ample history of what happens when it's increased, and I don't think there were massive layoffs every time it was increased in the past.
Raising the minimum wage is an answer, because without a legal lower limit, there will always be an incentive for employers to pay less and less. It's like gravity. You need a floor to stop the fall. And then you can build up from there.
If I can say, I don't think your statements about how easy it is to get a higher salary than minimum wage is correct for a lot of people. Perhaps you can't see yourself living at that level for too long, but there are plenty of people who work 2 and 3 jobs, hardly see their kids, are ruining their health, just to make ends meet. Can't call those people lazy.
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_wage#Criticism_of_the_n...
You have to remember than increasing the minimum wages won't necessarily have an impact if current wages are already higher than the new minimum wage.
I remember reading that the new $15/hr minimum wage in Seattle (which is being phased in) will have almost no impact at first since very few folks are paid less than the new minimum.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/01/20/us-baker-hughe-res...
About minimum wage: do you know who really lobbies the hardest for increased minimum wage? Unions. Because they peg their base-line wages to the minimum wage. If they can succeed in getting the minimum wage raised, they can raise the pay for all of their workers who are already making 3 to 5 times the minimum wage.
They are fighting for a fairer wage for their constituents, and if such organizations existed for the majority of laborers, we wouldn't need a minimum wage.
But that's beside the point. A fair minimum wage is important because in 2013, 88.7% of American workers did not have a union to negotiate just compensation for them.
Now, both have to work just to keep a minimun living standard, and can only keep 1 kid... in daycare.
Also, families having only 1 kid were way too rare in the 80's, today, that's the norm.
This sentiment also seems to gloss over the contribution of stay at home partners. Just because they don't get paid, doesn't mean they aren't producing anything. Thus, the jump in resources from moving to double income is not the full amount of the second income.
The reason households "need" two incomes is because people want stuff.
Western Europe's heavy handed socialism wasn't as competitive as their light socialism is now.
America was the undisputed leader of the economically free world.
All the sudden by the 1970's, the US had to start competing more and more with the rest of the world. Our super high wages for unskilled labor just weren't competitive on a global scale.
Also, women moving in the job market actually lowers wages because the worker supply expanded greatly.
china wont stop, and capitalism will ruthlessly choose the cheapest route.
There is so much wrong with this way of thinking.
First, wages have nothing to do with the value of a person.
Second, getting rid of a job because it doesn't pay enough is the epitome of cutting off your nose to spite your face.
I hope, since this is the way you feel, that you don't patronize establishments that pay less than a livable wage or if you do that you personally make up the difference to those who are serving you.
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If an owner will not pay a worker a fair wage, some might find profiting from their undervalued labor as morally abhorrent.
I hope that people would choose to support businesses that fell in line with their values.
As the first rule of sociology tells us: "Some do, some don't."
I think one reason that taxes & government jobs exist is because this doesn't hold true for some things that need to get done.
Anyhow, (I'm sure it's been beaten to death), who decides what a fair wage is? If it's the consumer, then yes, he/she should take their business elsewhere.
But in our modern capitalist system, if you're working for someone, you have a job because more value can be extracted from the work you do than what you're paid. The same holds true if the business you work for is being subsidized by the government. Your employer is still skimming off a profit from the subsidy.
The worker and employer should decide what fair wage is, but this means that they should have an equal ground to negotiate on. Large groups of organized well-funded and well-lawyered people are setting the compensation rules for an unorganized and financially desperate pool of labor. Negotiations for fair pay cannot happen in those circumstances. Labor has all the cards stacked against them. Laws that limit the ability of or outright ban organized labor need to be repealed to that end.
Voting with your wallet might have a small effect, but that requires consumers to be well versed in how each business runs and compensates their workers. When the trend is that the majority of workers and yourself have been consistently given the shaft for decades, it is difficult to enact change solely through educated consumption.
Are you talking about "Right to work" laws (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-to-work_law), which seem pretty benign to me, or something more extreme?
What if the surplus value extracted does not exceed a fair wage? If a fair wage - however you define that - is still required, then the likely result is that the value goes entirely unextracted.
This brings us to a basic philosophical question: is a laborer who is unemployed better off than one being exploited for an "unfair" wage?
If the value created is not enough to pay a living wage then the job can probably be done without. Though, if the value created is high, but market conations allow for less than a living wage by exploiting workers then raising the minimum wage rises worker pay without costing a job.
In the end this is only a problem is the US because society subsidizes companies employing low pay workers. The might be created plenty of value, but companies get to extract it not just from workers but also from welfare programs.