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One friend of mine told me once that no matter how much you read about sex, you have to practice it in order to understand it. We, as men, will never actually understand female orgasms and women will never know how ours are felt, no matter how accurate one tries to describe it.

I don't know what the above means in the context of "the knowledge argument" but these are easier to understand examples than "not experimenting the red color" in the article

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:( don't talk as if your whole audience is men.

I am not exactly sure in what way his discourse seems as though it were addressed to an audience of men only. My political correctness meter is tingling.

> We, as men, will never actually understand female orgasms and women will never know how ours are felt, no matter how accurate one tries to describe it.

My position is almost the same as btilly's. When he says "We, as men, will never actually understand female orgasms and women will never know how ours are felt... " anaolykarpov is merely including himself in the more general set of men, and thus communicating an opinion as an element representative of that set, regardless of the audience. The disjunction with the set of women is necessary to underline the fact that there might be a fundamental qualitative/quantitative difference in the way orgasm is felt by the two.

In fact, the statement wouldn't have been any less correct had the audience been only women.

The same applies if a woman were to say "We, as women, will never ..."

Invalid complaint. The statement was grammatically correct if anaolykarpov and the friend having the conversation were both male. In that case "we" refers to the two of them, and not to those of us in the audience to whom that conversation is being recounted.

Furthermore, each individual will feel it differently http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualia

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