https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/video-codec/current/ms... http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/92/slides/slides-92-netvc-0....
Realistic that there could be an industry consensus next generation video codec (like Opus for audio) with Daala as basis?
Xiph used preemptive approach and refuted all accusatoins and patent attacks on Opus as soon as they surfaced, which helped its acceptance in IETF. They plan the same tactic for Daala which hopefully would kill all the FUD. That's in contrast with VPx where Google waited for lawsuits instead of defending it right away and refuting any false accusations.
However IETF acceptance doesn't mean that the likes of Apple will actually start using it. But making it mandatory for the video tag would be a big victory, since those who refuse to support it will be under pressure to follow the standard.
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18932
It was CLOSED WONTFIX.
> #2: Working groups can't force a browser to implement something. Are all the browser vendors willing to implement it? That's what matters.
> #3 Microsoft doesn't believe HTML5 needs to specify a mandatory to implement codec. The market is quite capable of ensuring that popular formats are supported on the web. Opus did not exist when ISSUE-7 was closed. Who knows what formats might be more popular than this by the time HTML5 gets to Recommendation, or after that. It's also not clear that there will be widespread adoption of Opus for the purposes that <audio> is currently used.
This does not mean Microsoft is for or against supporting Opus with <audio>, just that the spec doesn't need to say anything on this.
Rationale is invalid, since in other instances standard is enforcing something (same WebRTC). And of course MS was brought as the main antagonist. Some apparently just hate when the Web has interoperability.
Even if this new video codec beats the alternative on several dimensions, it'll be a struggle to get adoption for similar reason of entrenched patent owners and business interests.
I can't really bring myself to blame corporations for following short term private gain, but all the nerds who ignored licencing issues in favour of short term technical superiority deserve some blame for this local minimum we're trapped in.
Why not? They should be blamed for it, especially when they sabotage interoperability for such gain. This irritates me the most in these companies.
> the nerds who ignored licensing issues in favour of short term technical superiority deserve some blame for this local minimum we're trapped in.
That's free codecs should be ahead of the competition by a big margin. Daala is not just next generation, it's next next generation, which increases its chances to beat patent encumbered competitors and to actually gain traction. No matter what backroom deals can be proposed, if someone can save tons of money on licensing and get much higher quality, it's a no brainier to do it.