In contrast, Facebook has over 10x the people, and 10x the user base, but does major UI shakeups regularly, tries out new features often, and isn't afraid to tweak or remove them if they don't work out. They also are doing interesting things technically (e.g, Cassandra, Scribe) and open sourcing them, some of which Twitter deploys themselves (e.g., well, Cassandra, Scribe).
Facebook definitely seems to fit the startup ideal much more than Twitter, yet Twitter is much smaller. What gives?
In that light, it makes sense to me that Facebook can afford to take more risks that twitter. And Microsoft can afford to take more risks than Facebook, etc.
That contradicts a lot of sentiment on HN.
> And Microsoft can afford to take more risks than Facebook, etc.
Where is Microsoft making more risks than Facebook? They are quite conservative about the cash cows. Windows has a lot of complexity to maintain backwards compatibility going back decades, and that complexity has a very high cost when it comes to making a stable and secure product.
I define risk as the unknown part of the equation. In that sense, startups (particularly the customer development types) are in the business of flushing out risk through validation before action.
Where is Microsoft making more risks than Facebook?
Zune, Bing, Maps, whatever that table-top display technology is, etc etc. These are all risks insofar as they are outside of MSFT's original core competency, which I understand to be operating systems.
They are quite conservative about the cash cows.
Facebook isn't conservative with their cash cow? Are they revolutionizing online advertising somewhere that I'm not looking? All I can see is targeted banners. Looks very conservative to me.
Twitter is extremely startup-like in one critical respect: their attention to how the community is using their product. That's how they became huge. It's the fact that they became huge by focusing on this while others who happened upon the same space did not do this, and thus did not become huge, that wins them respect in the startup realm. Much of what you call their risk-averseness comes from this desire to follow rather than force their users. It's a lesson many of us would do well to learn and, I suspect, one of those things that is far deeper than appears on first sight.
It'll be interesting to see how well that works when/if they try to monetize those users.
Twitter is entirely unproven. It's a big mystery what Twitter's actual user engagement numbers are, so nobody really knows how sticky the site is. How do you know Twitter's approach is working? It seems entirely too premature to say.
Honestly to me it seems like either Twitter's user engagement numbers are really bad, which is why Twitter doesn't talk about them, or Twitter's analytics are so poor that they don't know how their users behave, which doesn't really reflect well on them either.
First, small is relative. If 'company' is 3 guys working on a project for a couple of years, maybe they can be bought out at a price that Twitter can afford.
Second, twitter is a big deal. That means it probably has the potential to be a big company. You may disagree and that is fine. But other people consider Twitter big.
If a company came into being specifically to be Twitter's accountants or lawyers, it wouldn't be that big a deal. You might thinks it is risky or narrow, but you wouldn't be calling it a bubble.
If you really think these are just companies manufactured for sale to Twitter (not self evident, but granted for the sake of argument), you can think of it as just a variation of that.