Can life exist on a planet without a star?
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Fascinating.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nightfall_%28Asimov_short_story...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Pail_of_Air
http://www.baenebooks.com/chapters/0743498747/0743498747___6...
Los Alamos, Argonne, and Tana Tuva.
Was Tana Tuva a topic of discussion during this time period? I remember Richard Feynman wrote quite a bit about it, too.
[1] http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tuva-Bust-Richard-Feynmans-Journey/d...
[2] http://sciencek.com/video/1151/horizon-1988x25-the-quest-for...
Do this mean 3,000 times less than the Suns total daily output, or 3,000 times less than the sunlight that physically hits the earth daily?
I suspect the latter, but I still find this surprising. If daily sunshine hitting the earth is so massive then let's make solar work! If we could just collect even a fraction..
This one.
> Most of Earth’s internal heat was delivered by the giant collisions that built the planet, a large portion of which remains locked inside its crust.
In 19th century, Lord Kelvin estimated the age of Earth using this method, arriving at somewhere between 20 and 400 million years[1], much shorter than 4.6 billion years currently accepted. It turns out radioactive decay keeps the Earth's inside warm for a much longer time. (I.e., assuming Kelvin's calculation was correct, without radioactivity the Earth's core would have frozen over within the first 400M years.)
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth#Early_calculat...
v = (4/3) * pi * r^3
s = 4 * pi * r^2
s / v => 3/r
This makes a kind of sense in terms of heat transfer: the sun's got a whole lot more insides for radiation to get through before it can even reach the surface to escape.
EDIT: line breaks unbreak formulas.
Thanks.
>For a given shape, SA:V is inversely proportional to size.
When an object grows in size its volume grows faster than its surface area.
Instead, it should be saying:
"The solar energy flux is 3000 times greater than the surface heat flux from interior heat."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_energy_budget
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_internal_heat_budget
A rogue planet in itself makes a terrible colony. And by stopping at one you about double(!) the energy/time needed to leave the solar system.
Some have decided this means star travel is impossible; I say it just limits how quickly we can do it. We could launch very large ice asteroids with nanotech unmanned fusion stations that construct lasers ("vigorous handwave about magic here") and create ourselves a series of stepping stones to a star. It would take a long time, not least of which is because we would also need to set up the "stepping stones" to stop us on the other end, too! But in theory it seems like it would "just" be a matter of time. Lots of time. But a whole star system on the other end! It's a pretty big payoff for a strapping young Kardashev II civilization.
(Note that "just send information" only works after you deliver a physical package to the other end which would be capable of receiving it and doing something with it, and even nanotech is unlikely to be able to land anywhere to begin its lengthy self-replicating process to bootup civilization on the other end if it's merrily passing through a system at 80% the speed of light relative to the local rest frame.)
If you were lucky enough to stumble on to one of these planets in the way, it would provide a pretty nice shortcut to setting up your bridge by providing you a nice, huge power source (if you can find a lot of hydrogen lying around somewhere, which is a reasonable guess) that's already more-or-less at rest in the galactic frame, allowing you to use it to relatively easily create more stages on the enormous pipeline, and allowing you the ability to relatively easily replenish the stages in the middle. (If that's even desirable... perhaps the stages can be retargeted to other stars or something once the bootstrap package is successfully delivered.)
... of course, the article's starting with "10,000 years in the future" is probably not a terrible guess about all this, as such things go. This is a guaranteed-slow process, trading time for space. Tell your great-grandchildren to ask their great-grandchildren how the initial plans to make the initial plans for all this are going, and say "hi" to the future for you. Saying "we" will do this might very well be considered to be rather impudent of me, much like Napoleon trying to claim some sort of perceptible credit for the Hoover Dam.
http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/53587/if-a-space-...
From the ship's frame, the acceleration would continue at the same rate. However, due to Lorentz contraction, the galaxy around the ship would appear to become squashed in the direction of travel, and a destination many light years away would appear to become much closer. Traveling to this destination at sub-luminal speeds would become practical for the onboard travellers. Ultimately, from the ship's frame, it would be possible to reach anywhere in the visible universe, before the ship has time to accelerate to light speed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_travel_using_constant_acc...
If you can build an engine that can constantly accelerate, without having to constantly throw fuel behind you, e.g. http://higherperspective.com/2015/03/nasa-engine.html, an astronaut can potentially travel 4 light years in less than 4 years, from their point of view, because although from Earth's reference point of view they will always be less than c, as their speed approaches c from Earth's point of view, there will be time dilation between them and Earth. If from Earth's point of view they take 4 years and a bit to travel 4 light years, assuming acceleration to very close to c very quickly, you as an astronaut will experience the same time as a lot shorter, possibly as months.
From the astronauts point of view, they can travel one light year in less than one year, if they can accelerate constantly fast enough without dying.
Of course I haven't taken into account the amount of energy that needs to be involved, except to say, if you're talking about a one-way trip, the time factor can be overcome, through technology that isn't that impossible.
If you know what's on the other side and it's possible can build a self-sustainable colony, colonising other planets is perfectly feasible from a psychological point of view given we have the technology we can accelerate close to c and decelerate from c, by achieving the time dilation effect.
This calculation is probably wrong because Newtonian calculations are like that (wrong) when they get close to c.
However, it deserves bonus points for
+ having exactly earth's gravity in the ship
+ travelling "up" all the time, making you feel like in a huge elevator.
However, I'm not sure whether you'd consider 354d as fast enough :)
Yes, once you throw away all the hard problems, space travel is easy.
Once you take them back into account, and seriously consider the problem as an engineering problem and not a science fiction problem, which, alas, many people have been sort of accidentally been trained to do because of the prevalence of science fiction, it starts looking really, really hard again, like, "The most plausible answer to the Fermi paradox is that star travel is impossible"-level hard.
(Which, again, isn't my opinion... I think it just means it takes a "bit" longer (you know, two or three orders of magnitude, just a trifling detail) but assuming that all possible societies in all the universe are as impatient as modern-day humans is a very strong assumption. But it isn't such a crazy argument that it can simply be dismissed... real space travel is hard.)
Although this would require us to 1) discover a dark planet, 2) moving at an appreciable percent of lightspeed, 3) with enough time to reach it, and 4) heading in the right direction so we could alight at a nearby solar system. If colonization sounds hard, how about those hitchhiking odds - infinitely improbable!
For comparison's sake, the only rouge planet that we know of is Mars, which moves around 24 km/s. :)
The discovery of hypervelocity stars (HVS) leaving our galaxy with speeds of
nearly $10^{3}$ km s$^{-1}$ has provided strong evidence towards the existence
of a massive compact object at the galaxy's center. HVS ejected via the
disruption of stellar binaries can occasionally yield a star with $v_{\infty}
\lesssim 10^4$ km s$^{-1}$, here we show that this mechanism can be extended to
massive black hole (MBH) mergers, where the secondary star is replaced by a MBH
with mass $M_2 \gtrsim 10^5 M_{\odot}$. We find that stars that are originally
bound to the secondary MBH are frequently ejected with $v_{\infty} > 10^4$ km
s$^{-1}$, and occasionally with velocities $\sim 10^5$ km s$^{-1}$ (one third the
speed of light), for this reason we refer to stars ejected from these systems
as "semi-relativistic" hypervelocity stars (SHS).
http://arxiv.org/abs/1411.5022There could also be hypervelocity planets, right?
Catching up to them would be hard, though.
There could definitely be hypervelocity planets just like planets. However, the density of these drops dramatically as you increase the speed you're looking for above the "typical" speed at our galactic radius (~230 km/s), simply because they are created by chance events. I believe the density of rouge planets is supposed to be of order the average density of normal planets in the galaxy (i.e., there might be 3 times as many rouge planets, but not 100 times as many). So finding a relativistic rouge planet nearby enough to be useful has negligible probability. (They are created by close encounters with black holes, after all.)
> Catching up to them would be hard, though.
Well, if you're thinking about using them as "space ships", you need to get up to speed anyways (since the alternative is to just travel on your own).
If you could catch one, your itinerant colony would have resources at speed for interstellar travel. You'd only need to accelerate a relatively small ship. And those resources would include mass for decelerating your ship at destination. But you couldn't stop for very long, without losing your ride.
There would be no such thing as night and day either.
Or the planet could be teeming with water bears.
> "Near the galactic center, the average distance between neighboring stars would be only 1000 AU (about a light-week). If the Sun were located within a parsec of the galactic center, there would be a million stars in our sky with apparent brightness greater than Sirius. The total starlight in the night sky would be about 200 times greater than the light of the full moon; you could easily read the newspaper at midnight, relying on starlight alone."
http://www.astronomy.ohio-state.edu/~ryden/ast162_7/notes31....
Kind of like Flatland in that regard, I suppose, so it's not terrible.
Maybe, maybe not.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothetical_types_of_biochemis...
I can envision how this planet could exist, and I can't prove it doesn't exist. Therefore it does. To make it sound scientific I'll replace "it does" with "it might"
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v400/n6739/full/400032a...
Looks like some follow-on work/speculation has happened, too:
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/237427218_Possibilit...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dark-Star-Oliver-Langmead/dp/1907389...
http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/weirdastronomy....