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Comment by ludwig | Hacker News Reader

Vim and Emacs (yes, I'm schizophrenic).

You should look into Viper. And if Emacs doesn't start quickly enough for you, you should run it as "emacs --daemon" and then "start your editor" with emacsclient -t (or emacsclient -c, if you want an X window).

Once you've gone the Way Of The Emacs, there is no reason to use vim... unless you have some internal application written in vimscript, of course.

Straight vim is rarely very useable. I wouldn't be comfortable with out tags, minibuf explorer, nerdtree, cscope, and taglist.

Right, which is what Emacs is there for. I don't think there is any Vim functionality (plugin or otherwise) that is not implemented in some Emacs extension.

Viper just gets you insert-mode and command-mode. It's still Emacs.

What about the one where you don't use megabytes of disk space? ;)

The OP says he uses both Emacs and Vim regularly. Emacs alone uses less disk space than Emacs and Vim combined.

I definitely take advantage of the Emacs daemon, and use emacsclient extensively. However Viper just doesn't cut it for me, since I rely on a lot of vim plugins (as Locke1689 pointed out) for extra functionality. It's not just the keybindings or the modal interface.

But hey, these two programs are great. I've tried other IDEs, but always end up coming back to one of those two for real work. Some things are easy in one and annoying in the other so they complement well.

The point of Emacs and Vim is that they are programmable. If something is annoying, you have not programmed one correctly yet.

Oh believe me, I've customized both extensively. My annoyances are extremely minor, but annoying nonetheless.

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