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Yeah, the Strophe+Punjab is a little unwieldy (there are some use-cases for it, like federating to many XMPP servers - I just don't have this requirement now).

Are you using just Strophe, or some other js XMPP lib?

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I mucked around with aristochat which is based on jsjac, and used some jsjac plain, they mostly worked fine for me although I wouldnt wholly recommend them, remember having to patch jsjac quite a few places.

but I dont have anything live with either, I was just playing around

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