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Leaked Documents Reveal Anti-Piracy Cash Operation

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If it wouldn't be for the scumbags running the media industry I'm sure file sharing would not have gotten as much traction as it did. Now that some of the more sordid details are becoming publicly known the public will find less and less reasons to be swung by the crocodile tears of the media industry.

For me the piece by Janis Ian was an eye opener, the movie or the music industry does not seem to make much difference in general when it comes to their attitude to the general public.

It's all about money, and it really doesn't matter whether they'll get it from you legally, by hook or by crook.

If I ever get into a really bad mood I'm going to set up a service where you can order hard drives with 'random' bits on them at cost.

Downloading shouldn't be illegal. It's not my responsibility to determine if what is sent to me is copyrighted, free, or in the public domain. There are freely available music, movies, and games on the internet. It's not absurd.

Well, if you acted in good faith I'm sure that would be a fair defense. For example, buying stolen goods is illegal in most countries. If you're buying something used for 60% of retail price off a classifieds site that turns to be stolen, that would in be good faith. You might lose the stolen item in any case, but you would not be prosecuted.

Similarly if you were downloading a black & white movie off some official looking site that claims to collect out-of-copyright films.

But if you're downloading a 2009 blockbuster off Pirate Bay using BitTorrent, that's clearly malicious. But it's not even that kind of case that's being civilly prosecuted by RIAA and its ilk -- it's only when you start uploading this material to others that they strike.

Personally I find the behaviour of many of the pirates pathethic. Just admit that you want ready access to material that was expensive to create for free already, don't make some nonsensical claims about free speech or restrictive copyrights or oppressive record companies.

Want to fight exploitive record companies? Buy only music from independents, support those band tours'. Ignore newest pop albums from RIAA companies. Tell everyone how great your independent band is, play their music at parties.

Want to oppose restrictive copyrights? Make everything you create true Public Domain. Microsoft using your PD code in a commercial product? Great, your work is being put to good use.

I think uploading is the threshold for illegality, but I still think downloading should be a safe zone. It's up to the gov't to make sure no one breaks the law by providing copyrighted stuff for free.

Morally speaking if I know something shouldn't be freely available online, it would be wrong to download it, almost like how it would be wrong to buy something you know is stolen.

A lot of internet and computer "crime" is centered around proving intent (as Erwin points out).

It's not necessarily your responsibility to determine the license of the information you obtain but if your downloading 100's of the latest top hit records then clearly the intent is obvious.

In this sense downloading isn't in any way illegal; but the combined act of searching for "XYZ song" and then downloading and using it is.

I think it's the government's responsibility to prevent people from making pirated stuff available to me.

Right, because you just start downloading for example something named Transformers.Revenge.of.the.Fallen.2009.IMAX.720P.BDRip.X264-TLF, assuming that it's umm.. something in the public domain?

Who knows, it might be a movie too! You certainly don't - you just like to download random stuff that looks vaguely familiar for some totally mysterious reason, hoping that you'll be entertained by it.

I don't understand how your train of thought arrived at that destination, but it must have gotten derailed somewhere along the way.

Hey, maybe they decided to release it for free.

This is what otherwise is known as a racket

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