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Have you owned an original Pebble, and if so can you comment on the vibration motor in the new Pebble compared to the old one?

I owned an original Pebble for a while, and the vibration motor was absolutely awful. It felt bad on the wrist, and it was very audible. In quiet meetings, people would hear it and it would make me look like an idiot with a childish toy. I stopped using the Pebble after a week or two for a number of reasons, but this was the main one.

I do own an original Pebble, but haven't worn it for a long enough time that I don't remember how the vibration compares.

Thank you for your useful input

He was asked a direct question, don't be a jerk.

I have an original Pebble and love how powerful the vibration is. I never miss an alert and it wakes me up every time.

This is my question as well; I do enjoy my original Pebble but end up turning notifications off half the times because it's WAY too audible so everyone near me hears each notification I get (and with work using Google Hangouts sometimes I get far, far too many notifications in quick succession).

If the Pebble Time has a better, lighter vibration (or better yet adjustable; the original Pebble's vibration as an alarm clock is perfect but not at all for notifications). then I may be tempted to pick one up.

The Pebble Time's vibration is much more subtle (but still strong). A big improvement over the original Pebble.

> 7 day battery life: Don't care. I don't sleep with my watch on and with wireless or magnetic charging it's not a hassle to charge nightly.

For me, that's actually a pretty big selling point for a variety of reasons (namely that charging isn't always going to be a possibility - i.e. if I'm out hiking/camping or otherwise "off the grid").

> I still prefer the Moto 360's design over any other smartwatch including Pebble Time. Most people assume it's an Apple Watch.

Given that people are thinking a round watch is an Apple Watch, I'm not sure that says much about their judgment in watch design.

I think that a person who hasn't memorized the shape of the Apple Watch can still have a valid opinion about design.

Perhaps they mean Apple's design?

All it says is that they assume Apple's is the coolest.

I have the Moto 360 as well, and on most of your points I agree.

On the 7 day battery life though... The Moto 360 battery life sucks. I can't make it from sun-up until bed time without the Moto 360 dying if I try to actually use it for anything useful such as using the music streaming or even the stopwatch when I'm at the gym.

I have had to revert to using my iPod for music at the gym and an old fashioned stop watch.

As the health aspects of the Moto 360 were the primary selling points to me; it's really been a waste of money.

Have you received latest updates. I would say I'm on the higher end of usage with all notifications from personal and work emails, messaging services, calendar updates.. and mine easily lasts a day and half. I don't need always on, as its really pointless for me to have it on, if I'm not actively looking at it.

Yes; I have the latest updates.

With only the notifications you mention the Moto 360 will last about a day and a half.

Music streaming over bluetooth from the watch or the screen being continuously on will chow through the battery in less than 2 hours. So if I get up in the morning and work out for an hour, using the watch to play music and time my set and rest intervals the watch will be at around 33% life when I'm done at the gym. This is not enough remaining battery life to get through the work day.

If I go to the gym after work then the watch will die 20 minutes into my workout.

Most people think my first gen pebble is an apple watch, too.

This is an advantage of advertising when the competition doesn't.