2ndorderthought

The narratives around the pressure to blindly accept AI is crazy. They try every angle from "you are a communist", to "you are too stupid".

I speculate it has a lot to do with surveillance capitalism. It's the same type of tactics that have been used for things like the banning of marijuana, or the health merits of cigarettes. Fear mongering and lying so a few robber Barron's can profiteer.

I think AI is useful. I think it was rolled out haphazardly similar to how people used to gargle radioactive isotopes or slather them on as after shave so others can profit quickly. There are so many issues with the technology that the press won't even cover yet because we all have to play stupid until trends emerge to report on otherwise billionaire defense contractors will send their figurative or possibly literal hit squads after us. We have to wait for the tumors to grow, the jaws to fall off before society will remember "maybe we shouldn't be slapping radioactive stuff all over ourselves so some wealthy white dude gets wealthier"

The future of ai is in small local models people pay 0 dollars to upgrade or use. Anything else is meritless exploitation and destruction. That's why the US will lose. Reality has a liberal bias. Tough pill for ai libertarians to swallow. So they mud fling.

I disagree as someone who was using dotnet within the last 2 years.

Also we are comparing go to .net not to rust. Go is much easier and faster tooling wise. It doesn't require an IL and doesn't have 2 decades of enterprise cruft with vendor lock in strategies baked into it.

I asked to read between the lines.

The experience behind each of these things really stinks compared to go. If you haven't tried it, I recommend it just to feel the ergonomics. I don't care for go as a language. The funny thing is, I find the tooling so much easier, better, faster than .net that even though I like c# more than go as a language, I would prefer to start a new project in go instead of say c# instead. It's that annoying for me. I've met several other people who are language ambivalent who feel the same way.

I could write a huge blog post about it with facts. I'd rather not though. People do what they like and I am not here to change what someone likes.

Metadata would be more powerful in 9 out of 10 cases. Message contents could be invaluable in some cases too. Interesting to think about

It's a great book! It does make you wonder what s future with neural link and data centers in every city looks like under a fascist regime.

Thanks for explaining. I guess we are talking about espionage or something like that. I've been so focused on the rise of domestic surveillance lately that I forgot about the noncitizen aspects. Which is ridiculous but at the same time, it does seem like a trillion dollar focus lately.

I imagine in 2027 people will be getting killed over vibes.

Does make you wonder what kind of people they kill or how many. I can't think of a lot of crimes whose metadata warrants being killed for personally.

Why are we even spending time on this. It's vibe coded slop. The creator probably never even ran it before it got to HN

So when I was googling it I was seeing a few other corporate activities seemingly coming from the other major contributors of the language outside of Julia hub? It looks like pumas AI has a few of the same people as Julia hub. Or am I misunderstanding the situation?

From a quick Google search it looked kind of like a bunch of MIT staff/professors(?) are getting students to churn out code for a variety of business interests. Just doesn't seem right in the surface and does make me wonder about what other things happen knowing what I know about human behavior.

I am personally not interested that's for sure. Thanks for sharing your experiences though.

It's a feature for them not a bug. Google is an ad company and an offense contractor they want VPN users leaking packets for both reasons.

Dillo. This is a hot take of hot takes. But, I think it's correct. Let me know how I can help?

Whoever has the most compute controls the narrative. It's AIs biggest contribution to the internet.

Not this administration. That said sam altman, Elon musk, mark Zuckerberg, and Alex karp, etc are this administration. So either way we are boned.

America, all the crumbling industries and oligarchs of Russia, all the domestic surveillance of China, none of the healthcare of other developed countries, and more guns then any other nation.

They know through indirect means. So they buy all the cellphone data specifically the gps location data in the us and funnel it through huge servers. So they can determine patterns, addresses, etc.

This makes that easier and doesn't risk any of the legality if their should be illegal data sources or other likely illegal activities.

Tldr: This is a way to defeat vpns.

Yep. Google an offense contractor for the department of war is now going to require phone attestation to access the internet. This goes right in line with the actual desires here. Technofacism is going to hit fast. Especially seeing as how many people here and in other communities have their head in the sand.

I wouldn't say nefarious, but I don't know how I feel about the power structure. I could see it being very much a one way venture for most participants. I'd have to think about it before actually using the language.

Seems kind of contradictory with the other comment which states that they decide what features are prioritized. I guess not because it could be an informal process.

It's interesting. I like the more opaque approach rust takes. Rust has its own issues but it seems less corporately motivated. Maybe that's why it has more corporations using it? You aren't going to end up with the core maintainers to the language rug pulling packages or language features to slow down competition who are also using the tool. I say competition because it looks like they are making money through consultancies and very broad applications of the niche language.

Weird stuff to have to think about. I just want to write code

How hard was it to maintain a large Julia code base rather then say an OOP or Rust one? It has an interesting paradigm. I feel like it could get really messy

I don't get the appeal. It's like a. OSS Matlab but all contributions are used directly so the language developers can make money for a parent company? Most OSS languages aren't run that way. Seems kind of scammy

I always worry about posting comments like this. A lot of tech bros are like "form logical arguments about why this clickbait isn't clickbait otherwise you are a troll". You beat me too it. Thanks for your service.

I also love how maybe 10% of the posts on here are like "some thing that has existed for 40+ years ,/:/; Claude/chatgpt". So much advertising at the expense of a dead internet it's ridiculous.

I'm sorry but encryption like https has been around since 1995. Every software engineer knows they should use encryption to protect pii.

What am I supposed to be doing on behalf of meta? To prove I am not a bot with a smooth brain? Present their argument? Their argument is they want to sell as much data as possible about adults and children to the department of war. They want to double dip and use all user data as a means to produce advertisements, algorithms, and user experiences that negatively impact children's health so they can profit.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-26/meta-and-google-found...

If you want me to argue for meta on their behalf to help them find reasons to forward their goals of exploiting their user base, I won't. The exercise has negative value.

Considering the average person thinks that opening websites in incognito means no one knows they visited them, I would agree.

This is what they do Everytime things are going really bad. "Oh btw aliens!?". It's a psyop so people appeal to higher powers and feel that the government is keeping them safe. Truth is if aliens ever made contact with the us, the representatives would be trying to sell us for alien weapons they could use to go kill whatever remains that they don't like at any given moment.

A lot of people are blissfully unaware how any piece of software is profitable. Tech and business literacy are terribly low.

This is awful. They are doing this so they can literally advertise to kids. I bet their dbs aren't encrypted at rest either. Complete foolishnes

Instagram should be shut down. Not using encryption for social media and places where users expect any level of privacy is insanity.

The .net sdk is like 1gb, go is like 60mb or something. It's annoying when that matters.

More so, nothing happens quickly with it's tooling, and the tooling isn't friendly. All of a sudden I can't build my project in vsstudio(also bloated but admittedly optional but may be required depending on where you work). Clean build also fails. So I have to go to the command line and type in dotnet restore, dotnet build, magic it works now. ???

Okay time to install a package because msft has its own packages for things like aspnet but now I want to serialize json. Cool newton soft sounds good. Ah now I need a package manager, I'll install nuget. Oops I need to tweak this weird xml file with lots of options.

I press compile I wait 3 minutes to realize there is an error. Okay it builds and looks good in debug mide now I want to send my application to a friend who doesn't have .net runtime...

With go it's more like. Okay I automatically have web access from the std lib. I want a framework oh I already have a package manager. Edit my toml. One command done. Time to compile, poof done in 2 seconds. I send the binary to my friend and they run it.

I understand some of these are 1 time cost things, but I am requesting you to read between the lines as these aren't examples I am trying to quibble over. The point is the friction that go has focused on removing by being quick and small. It has less legacy cruft but I tried to ignore as much of that as I could.

Also keep in mind j am not a big go fan. It's not my favorite language but it is way easier to deal with on a regular basis for me

Yea that is a strong fingerprint. Especially if any of the other things were correct or someone has a way to model your behaviors. How long you scroll vs how often you type etc. and somehow that's still not enough for big tech and they need biometrics, photo IDs, etc.

I can see reasons why people don't want to use .NET if Go is available. .NET has its merits but it's bloated, compilation is slow, and I find it's tooling to be really annoying.

For me go is just above c# and both of those are not super high on my list.

Go is fine for simple applications especially backend ones that connect to the internet. I do prefer it to node/js/ts/etc.

I do think a lot of projects would be better served having been written in go instead of java, or whatever else.

I don't think it's a panacea for anything. It's pretty easy to shoot yourself in the foot with. The easy stuff is easy the hard stuff is really hard.

I like rust a little more, and I don't rewrite things with it. I choose it first. That's my preference but go ahead and gopher on.