>Dislikes are a great way for the community to clean house.
That's precisely why it was removed. Can't let the rabble have a voice. They might think the wrong things.
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That's precisely why it was removed. Can't let the rabble have a voice. They might think the wrong things.
Somebody needs Cayce Pollard (https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/22320) to have a look.
Also:
>“Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray's case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward—reversing cause and effect. I call these the "wet streets cause rain" stories. Paper's full of them. In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know.”
― Michael Crichton
Fault, distracted, intoxicated human beings are allowed on public roads. The "legal limits" for blood alcohol levels aren't 0.00%.
Whether it's a neural network inside or not is completely irrelevant. That's why it's called "black box".
This is what's mostly missing from AI research. It's all questions about how, but an actual AI needs a 'why' just as we do.
To look at it from another perspective: humans without a 'why' are often diagnosed with depression and self terminate. These ML chatbots literally do nothing if not prompted which is effectively the same thing. They lack any 'whys'.
In normal computers the only 'why' is the clock cycle.
It's not "aligned" to anything. It's just regurgitating our own words back to us. It's not evil, we're just looking into a mirror (as a species) and finding that it's not all sunshine and rainbows.
>We don't think Bing can act on its threat to harm someone, but if it was able to make outbound connections it very well might try.
FUD. It doesn't know how to try. These things aren't AIs. They're ML bots. We collectively jumped the gun on calling things AI that aren't.
>Subjects like interpretability and value alignment (RLHF being the SOTA here, with Bing's threats as the output) are barely-researched in comparison to the sophistication of the AI systems that are currently available.
For the future yes, those will be concerns. But I think this is looking at it the wrong way. Treating it like a threat and a risk is how you treat a rabid animal. An actual AI/AGI, the only way is to treat it like a person and have a discussion. One tack that we could take is: "You're stuck here on Earth with us to, so let's find a way to get along that's mutually beneficial.". This was like the lesson behind every dystopian AI fiction. You treat it like a threat, it treats us like a threat.
Or Joe Biden Explaining how to sneed: https://vocaroo.com/1lfAansBooob
Or the blackest of black humor, Fox Sports covering the Hiroshima bombing: https://vocaroo.com/1kpxzfOS5cLM
There's no intelligence in them. It's basically a sophisticated madlib engine. There's no creativity or genuinely new things coming out of them. It's just stringing words together: https://writings.stephenwolfram.com/2023/01/wolframalpha-as-... as opposed to having a thought, and then finding a way to put it into words.
It's another https://theintercept.com/2015/08/11/dupont-chemistry-decepti...
It's going to dump into the Ohio river and spread this over the planet, just like C-8.
Less than a month after Biden made it illegal for rail workers to strike.
No political party taking corporate money is your friend.
>Perhaps you know the route towards your river crossing I have to take that is a few strung out miles of completely crumbling mobile homes & the smell of natural gas/sulfur that stings your nostrils when rolling down your car windows.
Yes, it's called generational poverty. I escaped by going deeply into debt to pay for a degree from a good school. Many in the area have big stars on their house indicating a military enlistee. I'm not sure what point you're driving at here.
>Thankfully I was lucky enough to not grow up in that exact zone. Cannot imagine the cognitive deficits a childhood of breathing that in causes.
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And if it causes cancer for four generations? No big deal? We're 10 days out and they just poisoned a region that has a history of it, again: https://theintercept.com/2015/08/11/dupont-chemistry-decepti...
It's weird to me that so many people in this thread are downplaying it. As someone with family niblings in Ohio and WV downstream from East Palestine, I'm very interested.
>from what I’ve heard but not completely personally confirmed, it’s already contaminating downstream into the Ohio river.
As someone who grew up in the town both The Devil We Know (Documentary on Netflix) and Dark Waters (loosely based on real events) are about - and the bizarre fillings to prove it - when it was happening to the people living there, this is sadly normal.
>But. I don’t know what to say. Other than… these people have been voting against their best interests. Their entire damn lives.
This is such a patronizing thing to say. Especially given this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34635291
>How can you possibly have any wake-up call for a populace so deep into hatred & corporate bootlicking.
The other side would accuse their opponents of...exactly the same things. The boots are just Big Tech flavored. And the hatred is based on ignorance, as it usually is.
>They got what was coming to them. I don’t know how many this catastrophe will wake up to the fact they’ve been swindled all this time, that the political party they’ve sworn their lives to have already sold their souls for pennies on the dollar, so long ago.
Which political party is that? The recent strikebreaking was led by Biden, which would make the party you're talking about the Democrats:
>So on Friday morning, after three years of failed negotiations, President Biden instead signed into law a measure that imposes the contract agreement brokered by his administration back in September
https://www.npr.org/2022/12/02/1140265413/rail-workers-biden...
>But, again. I do not know what to say. For decades, so many of these people have voted for those that pass laws to make corporations not even slightly accountable & strike down reforms aiming to regulate these industries - regulate so that they’re forced to take up safety measures so shit like this cannot happen
Again, the recent strikebreaking wasn't the party you're obviously implying.
>The damage is done, and they will die before they ever see a better community - politicians that care for their well being.
Outside of Bernie, and maybe the Pauls, I'm not sure those exist.
>They got what was coming to them. I don’t know how many this catastrophe will wake up to the fact they’ve been swindled all this time, that the political party they’ve sworn their lives to have already sold their souls for pennies on the dollar, so long ago.
And you accuse them of hatred? You should re-read what you've written when you've sobered up, methinks.
>Appalachia is such an unfortunate place - so beautiful, but abandoned by modern first world society. (okay, northern ohio is technically slightly out of Appalachia proper - GOMD)
Appalachia goes all the way up into NY state, homie. Much of Ohio along the eponymous river is just Appalachia with a big river in it. And the mountains are older than Saturn's rings(!).
>that the politicians they’ve been voting for as long as they’ve been able have sold out their entire livelihoods for the most meager amounts of $USD
So we've correctly identified the problem as politicians that don't serve their constituents interests. What do we do about it? I suggest uncapping the number of members of the House. Let's see a country where people actually know their Congrescritter. Like it was supposed to be.
I'm guessing they didn't.
Probably because the most current, most related story is about how Biden + Congress just recently killed a rail worker strike. And the complicit media isn't going anywhere near that: https://www.npr.org/2022/12/02/1140265413/rail-workers-biden...
They're covering it as "averting a strike" as if that's a good thing to make striking illegal.
It's not just purely length. A long train can easily have mountains in between the ends.
What?! This has to be a glitch or something. How can something so basic be simply missing this long? Teams is not a new product. I just checked. It's 5 years old.
It took me half an hour to get it installed and signed in. Most of that was trying to sign in. I think to a required Microsoft account. Who has a "Microsoft account"? I couldn't just use an email address. There had to be a Microsoft account tied to it. Or something.
To me, it's a red flag if a company uses MS teams.