CloudNine

Well, all I can say is that some Google fans, employees and shareholders seem to be just like Google, espouse openness etc. but be the first to quell free speech if it shows their company in a bad way. And there are a lot of such folks on here and looks like they form a Digg-style bury brigade.

I wonder if Bill Gates was involved in this idea. He has the level of cunning needed to pull this off.

Using Google's pretense of "openness" against itself.

Discussion of Google's takedown notice is here.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5715168

>So yes, it does matter a lot to them that these eyes are no longer seeing ads that they previously would have

Then why don't they give access to the Youtube videos and ads API to Microsoft? Microsoft has stated that they're happy to add Google's ads if given access.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5715889

AppleTV doesn't compete with Android so they don't care.

Well, there is GoogleTV, but it's doing way worse than Windows Phone, so they don't care.

Windows Phone is seeing decent numbers, 6 million in the last quarters. The lack of apps like YouTube and Instagram is hurting the platform and they're showing they're serious about fixing that issuee by picking a fight with Google.

Would be interesting to see people's reactions if Google sent a takedown notice to addons.mozilla.org for AdBlock because it's hurting video creators and web sites.

>Now they can point to Google and say "look, everyone, Google is taking away your toys, they must be evil!".

And they would be right. It's not mutually exclusive that Microsoft is doing this evilly on purpose, and that Google is evilly holding back Youtube from Windows Phone on purpose.

And then they will get banned in less than an hour after exhausting the quota.

https://developers.google.com/youtube/v3/getting-started#quo...

I'll be laughing longer at you at simplistically believing Google's lame excuse for the lack of a WP app that so many people are using Windows Phone that it's affecting Youtube's ad revenue because of not showing ads to them, but at the same time it's not worth monetizing the very same eyeballs by making an official YouTube app and showing ads to the Windows Phone audience.

There are a bunch of other kinds of fans on here.

Offhand I can list mtgx, rbanffy(who mentions he hates Microsoft in his HN profile page), or Toshio and lots of iOS fans and Google fans and employees and nobody seems to get bothered by them but somehow it's not okay for Microsoft fans to post on here?

Even Vimeo can make a decent Windows Phone app and a Windows 8 app and Youtube with a order of magnitude more revenue cannot?

If you really believe that, I have a bridge to sell.

Give me a break, Google is doing this to hurt the adoption of Windows Phone.

Apple developed the original YouTube iOS app with Google's blessings and pulled it after Google released their own official version.

>YouTube wants viewers, regardless of which platform they're coming from.

Then why don't they make an Windows Phone YouTube app and show ads on it? Hell, show double the ads just to annoy WP users. Or are they afraid that it will hurt Android?

>By 'everyone' you mean the usual Microsoft zelots like recoiledsnake and cooldeal?

Yes, lets lynch and ban the last couple of commenters on HN who don't hate 'M$' so that we can sip coffee at Google IO while using Macbooks to flag Surface Pro review stories and vote up Ruby and Go posts in peace.

They can't retroactively do evil things if they don't have it on their servers.

>I can think of many other possible explanations for the change that, while you may not agree with them, are at least reasonable.

Like what? Care to share them with us?