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They were compromised. Greed overtook the principles on which the project was founded and put the project at risk. They agreed from the start that Micay would own the project and hold the keys. They explicitly accepted those terms. Despite this, they tried a hostile takeover anyway.

Forking and building a separate build isnt dual signing, its just forking. You can do that right now with GrapheneOS and its build guide if you want.

Im not sure what you mean by the last part, GrapheneOS has been quite upfront with all of this from the start.

The claims arent vague, they are quite specific in what happened. This wasnt spiteful and this wasnt disgruntled. It was the logical choice given the circumstances.

That is a perfectly level-headed response. Signing keys must be protected. In the event of a hostile takeover, where a malicious party seeks to compromise the privacy and security of your userbase, destroying the keys is a sensible decision. Failure to do so, and successful compromise of the keys, will let the malicious party push whatever update they want, and it will be accepted due to being signed correctly.

It was not a disagreement about shares, it was a hostile takeover. Someone who never owned the project sought to steal it.

GrapheneOS protects everyone. Many normal and average users use GOS, and if minors seek to use it to protect themselves, thats great.

I have helped a significant number of GOS users install GOS to their device. If you perform post install steps correctly then you do not need to trust where you got it from, as the post install steps are there to verify your install is genuine. If GOS gets greenboot support for motorola devices, then not getting a yellowboot screen will show it is genuine and you wont need to trust anything.

I highly doubt that would work but there could be, say, a card in the box with the link to the webinstaller and the webinstaller can be made even easier.

GOS is not going to compromise on user privacy and security. This is not a technical problem, it is a social one where parents refuse to do what they should have done from the start. The internet is not for kids. Presuming users to be guilty until proven innocent is unacceptable. Making mechanisms to obtain user data, even if it is completely and perfectly functional and achieves what it sets out to do, risks malicious parties obtaining that information. The only way to win the game is not to play, to not ever provide that data, and children shouldnt be playing the gane in the first place.

They wont break the law, they will just move to where there are no such regulations. This isnt a promise to violate laws.

The typical GOS user generally doesnt want to do that. Flashing is a hurdle that increases barrier for entry. Reducing or eliminating that burden is ideal. Greenboot support would make flashing a little easier.

No. The bare minimum is that Motorola provides the needed baseline hardware security requirements to their future devices. Everything else is just a bonus. There could be green-boot support and/or preinstalled devices, but thats not a necessity. GOS benefits with an official hardware platform, potentially early partner access to AOSP source code, input on hardware and firmware decisions, and Motorola benefits by potentially having GOS features, better hardware security, and making tons of money from alternate OS users, GOS or otherwise.

Sounds like it exposes a ton of attack surface. Better to just have a card with a link to the webinstaller, probably.

Preinstalled devices is not the main goal of the partnership. GOS is ok without having that to start. Motorolas stock OS will still be available.

Its a statement for the future. They arent bound to add this now but they could be in the future. They will adapt accordingly to avoid it.

They are not building a product that cannot be sold in their primary market. They are not designing GrapheneOS devices, they are improving existing devices to meet GOS requirements. There will still be an OEM OS for those devices. Preinstalled GOS devices can simply not be sold there.

Motorola wont break the law. They just wont sell preinstalled devices, if preinstalled devices was even on the table for 2027.

Motorola likely wont sell devices with GOS preinstalled in those regions.

Giving in in any capacity is unacceptable. The GrapheneOS foundation is based in Canada and is not obligated to record this information, so they wont. They have no reason to comply, be it malicious or otherwise.

You pass basic, but not device or strong integrity. This is purely googles fault and is an artificial limitation that requires regulatory restrictions.

Most banking apps work perfectly, most government apps work perfectly, etc. It is only an exceptionally small subset of apps using anticompetitive measures such as play integrity.

Also, do not leave your bootloader unlocked. That is an incomplete GOS install and you will need to lock it to secure your device. Not locking it is both insecure and will make a much higher number of apps fail.

Its not.

I recommend dividing per persona rather than per app category.

Unfortunately, root detection is greatly flawed, most of the time.