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"In the eyes of roughly half the country..."
61% of the country believes abortion should be legal. 39% is closer to 1/3 than 1/2.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/06/13/about-six-i...
Like I said in another comment, I'm done with this conversation, have a nice day.
I'm done here.
Have a nice day.
Second, pregnancy varies from person to person. You can't reasonably assume that all fetuses that are 279 days old will survive and become healthy babies.
Third, there are substantial physical differences between fetuses and babies. I'm sure you're aware that fetuses receive most of their nutrients through the umbilical cord, whereas babies do not.
Maybe I'm wrong and you're right, maybe "nothing physically changes about the baby whether it's inside the womb or outside." Let's test this hypothesis. Go feed a baby through its belly button and see how that works out.
Do you recognize that there isn't consensus about whether fetuses are citizens and people?
Fertilized eggs have the potential to become fetuses, and fetuses have the potential to become babies, but fertilized eggs are not fetuses, and fetuses are not babies.
I think the spirit of your argument is that we cannot decide when to call a fetus a human. Like I mentioned in another comment, this grey area does not preclude undisputed humans from their constitutional rights.
Any state law that deprives someone of life and / or liberty is unconstitutional.
If someone needs a life-saving abortion, the state cannot deprive that person their constitutional right to life.
"This right of privacy, whether it be founded in the Fourteenth Amendment's concept of personal liberty and restrictions upon state action, as we feel it is, or ... in the Ninth Amendment's reservation of rights to the people, is broad enough to encompass a woman's decision whether to terminate her pregnancy."
— Roe, 410 U.S. at 153
The existence of this grey area doesn't preclude obvious constitutional rights.
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USA Constitution
14th Amendment
Section 1
...no State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws...
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The constitution clearly says that states cannot enforce laws that deprive citizens of their lives and liberties.
Now, states have renewed authority to deprive at-risk women their right to life-saving medical procedures. Please explain to me how this doesn't violate 14A.
Now that you mention it though, I am very disappointed with the battery life of my current watch (Galaxy Watch4) which seems to last for a few days tops...