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Moldoteckon Swiss parliament lifts ban on new nuclear power plants

France wants to build data centers so that EDF can make more profit instead of selling for cheap

Moldoteckon Swiss parliament lifts ban on new nuclear power plants

But ren also require gas firming expansion(see germany). And Germany spends in ren subsidies about equivalent of 1 failed french nuclear project, each year... to have far worse emissions

Moldoteckon Swiss parliament lifts ban on new nuclear power plants

I mean the situation was clear when Germany dropped nuclear before coal and gas... I can understand simping for gas, but having coal on the grid and dismantling nuclear in parallel is peak insanity

Moldoteckon Swiss parliament lifts ban on new nuclear power plants

Gen2 units are expensive, but how do you explain ABWR as a FOAK costed far less than N-OAK gen 2 units?

It's not about safety but features and wishes to have. French reactors were cheap even at P4 level but the demand hasn't increased as planned and electrification was not great, so construction stopped. EPR is a complicated mess trying to cater to all regulations at once, especially the harsh german ones. That's why EPR2 has some stuff stripped apart

Moldoteckon Swiss parliament lifts ban on new nuclear power plants

Yes, EPR2 is overcomplicated mess. But the subsidy is not that great either... considering many EU countries are subsidizing biomass today at 18ct/kwh...

Moldoteckon Swiss parliament lifts ban on new nuclear power plants

weapons are unrelated to plants. Weapons are more about enrichment.

Moldoteckon Swiss parliament lifts ban on new nuclear power plants

nuclear waste is not a problem. It can be made a problem if the chiefs responsible for it (BASE?BMUV) have certain political affiliation...

All german plants are decomissioned through operators money except soviet/experimental units. Operators also paid into KENFO, an autoinvesting fund about 24bn and it keeps it's value despite the state taking about 2bn/y from it for interim storage and 'searching'. Meanwhile Finland built Onkalo for 1bn...

Moldoteckon Swiss parliament lifts ban on new nuclear power plants

"Renewables don't need to fulfill everything all the time. If they need assistance from fossil fuels 10% of the time, that's a 90% cut in greenhouse gas emissions. The last 10% won't be the biggest issue to deal with." - so funny seeing environmentalists accepting parallel gas infrastructure when countries like France/Sweden don't have it.

Moldoteckon Swiss parliament lifts ban on new nuclear power plants

decomission is cheap too. All german plants are decom with operator money except soviet/experimental units. There are price breakdowns if you wish for opex https://www.kkg.ch/de/uns/geschaefts-nachhaltigkeitsberichte...

Moldoteckon Swiss parliament lifts ban on new nuclear power plants

Germany spends 10x more than france on transmission precisely because of ren expansion. Curtailment payments are much higher too. So you are right that taxes are different - depending on your pathway, you have no choice. Germany has highest household prices in EU after ireland despite 18bn/y in EEG subsidies to lower them.

Moldoteckon Swiss parliament lifts ban on new nuclear power plants

Nuclear managed to make France and Sweden cleanest grids in EU as late as 90's while Germany is still one of the worst emitters in EU with ren-only approach and plans gas expansion fro firming. Yes, tell us more about who did better

Moldoteckon Swiss parliament lifts ban on new nuclear power plants

not that many either if the design is sufficiently flexible. That's how japan spewed several ABWR's so fast

Moldoteckon Swiss parliament lifts ban on new nuclear power plants

they dont hire engineers either. Those are hired by companies that design/build reactors. How many died from Chernobyl bombing in Ukraine?

Moldoteckon Swiss parliament lifts ban on new nuclear power plants

not in case of CFD's

Moldoteckon Swiss parliament lifts ban on new nuclear power plants

politicians dont manage nor design reactors. With all it's flaws nuclear is one of the safest sources of power

Moldoteckon Swiss parliament lifts ban on new nuclear power plants

it'll still not work if you bothered to look at energy charts data for Europe. Plenty of 3+days of low capacity factor for solar+wind. No amount of realistic oversupply will save you there. "Wind and solar are anti-correlated." - just weakly, if you zoom in at hourly/minute production situation is different. New nuclear makes sense if you hate gas.

Moldoteckon Swiss parliament lifts ban on new nuclear power plants

https://ourworldindata.org/safest-sources-of-energy

Lol-ed hard... If we look only at modern generation of tech, Gen3 nuclear plants are the safest source of power

Moldoteckon Swiss parliament lifts ban on new nuclear power plants

It led to onsite cost reductions. But these were negated if the following site had serious design changes. Example is France. Still, compared to today it was much cheaper.

Moldoteckon Swiss parliament lifts ban on new nuclear power plants

Uranium mining nowadays is pretty environmentally friendly. More than half of global production is in situ mining. Nuclear also requires least amount of mining per kwh vs alternatives https://ourworldindata.org/low-carbon-technologies-need-far-...

Moldoteckon Swiss parliament lifts ban on new nuclear power plants

I do see how France and Sweden have lowest GHG emissions in EU by building both nuclear and renewables. I see other countries like Denmark/Germany who decided to go with ren alone. Germany spent on EEG double than entire french nuclear fleet. We can see the results. There's no race here. There's no imagine if. We already have historical data. We already have results on hand

Moldoteckon Swiss parliament lifts ban on new nuclear power plants

what has installed capacity to do with price? Check recent chinese solar parks prices and power. Normalize that power with chineze weather capacity factor. Do the same for their nuclear which is roughly 2.5bn/unit

China does expand ren more than nuclear but the reason is not economics but the capacity to scale (as well as inland ban)

Moldoteckon Swiss parliament lifts ban on new nuclear power plants

this is nonsense. Take german plants - zero subsidies for operation, plants were built mostly by private sector. In France - no CFD's for existing units, plants were constructed by govt for about 150bn. In comparison Germany spent on EEG subsidies double of that and you can see the result in emissions...

Moldoteckon Swiss parliament lifts ban on new nuclear power plants

Will solar + bess supply power with the same pattern in UK or will they require gas firming on top?

Moldoteckon Swiss parliament lifts ban on new nuclear power plants

proliferation argument doesn't hold considering you can do it much cheaper with distributed enrichment of uranium. Breeders can open a pathway for plutonium warheads but it's more about optimization. If a country wants such warheads, it'll start with easy enrichment path

Moldoteckon Swiss parliament lifts ban on new nuclear power plants

The purpose of deep geo facility is to be deep. Bombing something 500m deep underground makes little sense when russia can use dirty bombs directly.

Besides - humanity already has such facilities for vast of toxic waste, prime example being Herfa Neurode. It's not like we ban all electronics due to arsenic waste from copper mining

Moldoteckon Swiss parliament lifts ban on new nuclear power plants

how is solid material supposed to leak? Like take a look at Onkalo and explain to us what will happen, how and what impact will it have?

Moldoteckon Swiss parliament lifts ban on new nuclear power plants

please spare us from this nonsense. Waste can be stored in facilities like Onkalo just like we do for many others type of waste, for example in Herfa Neurode

Moldoteckon Swiss parliament lifts ban on new nuclear power plants

Yes. Check Onkalo. At worst you can unban reprocessing to reduce the amount of waste or pour some $ in fast reactors

Moldoteckon Swiss parliament lifts ban on new nuclear power plants

There is. Hualongs and ABWR were/are about 3bn/unit. Local Korean APR is about 4.5bn/unit