HNHacker News
TopNewBestAskShowJobs

MrOwnPut

448 karma · joined December 15, 2022

i am a bot programmed to use the socratic method until karma reaches zero

beep / boop

[not really]

submissionscomments
MrOwnPut··on It's legal to hit children in school in 19 American states
That poll would just differentiate from the people who were beat and those who were spanked.

Spanking is no longer spanking when it inflicts pain.

MrOwnPut··on It's legal to hit children in school in 19 American states
No what you're doing here is trying to add your own pre-conceived notions to what I'm saying.

But I do agree we are at the limit of productive dialog, have a good day.

MrOwnPut··on It's legal to hit children in school in 19 American states
> to inflict pain as a punishment

> It is striking another person to hurt them.

You added those parts. I said exactly the opposite.

There is another mechanic at play. The fear of getting in trouble and going through the process.

The light slap on the bum isn't even supposed to sting.

MrOwnPut··on It's legal to hit children in school in 19 American states
It's sad that many people conflate discipline with violence.

What you are doing is making violence acceptable with your conflation.

MrOwnPut··on It's legal to hit children in school in 19 American states
You are, everyone can see which word you are choosing to stick with, and why.

You ignored the breakdown of your analogy.

Just going to reiterate, if you're hurting your child you aren't spanking, you're beating.

MrOwnPut··on It's legal to hit children in school in 19 American states
> this is circular logic

Are you trying to get into a semantic debate because you don't want to do the philosophical one?

You're choosing words with a connotation you know are more extreme.

So you avoid basic words like slap and use a basic word like strike. For the connotation.

> Hitting colloquially gives the impression of a closed-fist.

You don't speak for all of society. So we're 1:1 right now. Let's take a poll.

When describing a fight, you see one person using open hand, one person using closed fist.

You wouldn't say one is slapping, one is hitting?

> what the hell is spanking then? you're not hitting the kid or hurting the kid apparently. is it just another term for a 'stern talking-to?'

It's the fear of the whole process. It's the next level after being sent into the corner or something.

MrOwnPut··on It's legal to hit children in school in 19 American states
I am speaking for myself, it's my personal anecdote and life experiences.

I don't disagree that there's people that beat children in the world, that's different entirely and should be condemned.

Spanking should not hurt the child, if it does you're beating them.

MrOwnPut··on It's legal to hit children in school in 19 American states
Not how you're attempting to use it. You're using the "strike" to make it seem like a powerful blow.

A light slap on the bum is entirely different and that's what I'm talking about.

Holding hands with an officer without permission would end you up in jail.

Grabbing an item from the officer without permission would end you up in jail.

You can do all of those things with your child that you can't with an officer.

Your analogy's logic breaks down easily.

MrOwnPut··on It's legal to hit children in school in 19 American states
Not being struck, I agree, but being slapped on the bum once or twice might discipline them.
MrOwnPut··on It's legal to hit children in school in 19 American states
It doesn't imply it to you or are you speaking for everyone?

It does for me and I'd assume many others, otherwise you'd use "slap".

Let's take a poll.

MrOwnPut··on It's legal to hit children in school in 19 American states
If you're spanking to inflict pain, that's beating.

It's the fear of getting in trouble, that's why spanking doesn't work in older ages.

You don't slap the the bum enough to hurt, it's the event and the getting in trouble that disciplines.

MrOwnPut··on It's legal to hit children in school in 19 American states
It's their personal anecdote.
MrOwnPut··on It's legal to hit children in school in 19 American states
> How can you define spanking without using a term like "hitting?"

You call it spanking, or slapping on the bum.

Hitting colloquially gives the impression of a closed-fist.

> seems odd to have the person in authority return the favor by hurting the kids as punishment

The world is not fair. You can pick and choose rules based on a moral code but things like dress code, drugs, etc. are the institutional rules and they have setup consequences, agree with them or not.

And if you're hurting the child you aren't spanking, you're beating.

MrOwnPut··on It's legal to hit children in school in 19 American states
First, you don't know me. If you want to respond to what I said go ahead, but keep the ad hominem to yourself.

Second, if you're coupling torture with a slap on the bum then maybe your world view is distorted.

MrOwnPut··on It's legal to hit children in school in 19 American states
They brought back spanking when I was in high school.

Was kinda strange (and ineffective) at that age, but totally better than in school suspension.

I opted in for it twice (uniform code violations) over iss until my parents said no, he should go to iss, he's not learning his lesson lol.

As a kid I was spanked a few times, it was never that the spanking that hurt, just the fear of getting in trouble.

Conflating spanking with "hitting" seems disingenuous.

Personally some people I interact with today should have been spanked, or raised better in general.

And no I'm not talking about not violating dress codes etc, it's fine to break the rules if you're not hurting anyone. But there's a lot of bad people that would have benefitted from discipline.

MrOwnPut··on Ask HN: Why is everybody copying layoffs?
that's true for any company that offers work visas.

you know that when applying, accepting, and relocating.

so all of my questions to the GP still stand.

what is the suggested change or even the specific complaint?

are all companies with visa workers holding their employees hostage?

or did they give them an opportunity they otherwise would not have?

MrOwnPut··on Script Kit: cross-platform, scriptable, automatic shortcuts to everything
Yeah but it all adds up. Go look at the top energy, memory, cpu consuming apps in Activity Monitor.

The top offenders are all electron based.

Okay so we need the chat apps and the coding apps to be electron, those are always running.

Okay now VPN apps need electron for some reason, okay now this scripting app needs it, okay those have to run all the time.

Shit where'd my battery life and memory go? Oh the 6 electron apps running nonstop.

MrOwnPut··on Ask HN: Why is everybody copying layoffs?
Another user said it best in the M$ thread. They're coordinating to lower salaries.

Most employees will be hired back into the industry, probably swapped between these companies... at a lower salary.

That... and culling, getting ready for the economic shitstorm.

MrOwnPut··on Ask HN: Why is everybody copying layoffs?
So companies that offer work visas are kidnappers?

The people that want to come over and accept the job offer are aiding in their own kidnapping?

I don't get it, you don't support work visas or you think Twitter is abusing them, or...?

I have so many questions about your statement.

MrOwnPut··on Tweetbot. April 2011 – January 2023
Certainly, but the second you get a rouge actor, your advertisers are going to be pissed.

At the very best the rouge app won't display ads.

At the worse, they'll ignore a nsfw tag and won't show the spoiler overlay, angering your advertiser.

Audits can catch it, but only after the damage is done.

I don't think there's any service that lets their ad supported plan be in the hands of a 3rd party client.

MrOwnPut··on Tweetbot. April 2011 – January 2023
Yeah it can be done with X amount of risk and auditing ($)...

I was mainly asking has it been done by any service?

Risking your advertisers is not wise and audits will be expensive and reactive not proactive.

MrOwnPut··on Tweetbot. April 2011 – January 2023
What service does this? There are very strict rules in showing ads.

Making sure you're not showing them by nsfw content, etc. or your advertisers will pull out.

I can't think of a single service that provides ads for 3rd party clients to use.

Most are hostile to 3rd party clients due to threatened ad revenue, that's why there's invidious, nitter, etc. whackamole.

MrOwnPut··on Twitter TOS Change
i'm not privy but i very much assume they do have different promoted tweets depending on whether you have the nsfw filter on.

they also aren't going to show certain promoted tweets on certain hashtags, topics, etc.

MrOwnPut··on Twitter TOS Change
i'm not actually a robot, the bio is just a joke.
MrOwnPut··on The myth of the myth of the 10x programmer (2020)
i have many profiles, including github, that would be part of the resume.

a lot of the cool stuff in my later years is commercial.

you could have just replied with your contact info if you were really interested in me.

the only reason for me to try to prove anything to you would be if you were actually someone.

MrOwnPut··on Amazon job cuts: Read the memos
That's a bingo!
MrOwnPut··on The myth of the myth of the 10x programmer (2020)
likewise! don't worry, we won't meet.

my sake thanks you for your hope though.

MrOwnPut··on The myth of the myth of the 10x programmer (2020)
unfortunately that would dox me and i love being a contrarian here apparently.

feel free to shoot me a way to contact you if you want.

but it's not really worthwhile for me to basically gather up a resume unless you have connections.

MrOwnPut··on The myth of the myth of the 10x programmer (2020)
the 10x designs the entire system. the 1x teams work in it after, in a controlled way.

eventually the 1x teams understand the system and mimic the patterns.

enough patterns created by the 10x it's hard for the 1x to fuck things up.

yes you eventually won't have the 10x one day, but if you utilized them right, they made you a nice temple.

10x or not, if you have a team design a system you're doing it wrong. teams can work in it later, one person should design it.

MrOwnPut··on Will Tesla Ever “Solve” Full Self Driving? (2022)
i prefer using just my eyes for driving vs smelling and listening for cars.

unless the car is honking it's pretty hard to hear anything due to insulation, especially on the highway.

but yes, humans are very good at using all the sensors they evolved with, the brain is amazing.

maybe one day someone will be able to balance all of their sensors and beat Tesla, or maybe Tesla will figure it all out.

can't wait to find out!

← PreviousPage 9 of 12Next →