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Eh, calling on a company to do a thing is some mix between public fact finding and threat here.

It allows the public to comment and maybe the senator will like the public support they are getting. Alternatively a pharma lobbyist will show up and toss them a few hundred thousand in campaign contribution promises. And they'll weight the relative value of those things. Depending on how that goes they (or another senator seeing this play out) will actually make an issue of it and it will start the more formal processes.

And of course an attacker like this has a high likelihood of being a state actor, comfortably secure in their native jurisdiction.

I mean you can just not use iostream? A lot of modern C++ projects just ignore it. For either C style IO or more C++ -y IO.

> Unity isn't close to profitable, and never has been

This isn't really true though, their core business is and was profitable if you exclude all the of acquisitions junk, stock shenanigans, and loans to pay for it they have been doing.

It just didn't have the margins expected of a public company and so they did all that other junk to pump those numbers.

You should be though. Without evidence, raw skepticism is a valid argument. My prior beliefs were not updated by either statement.

Though I agree the polite/generous version of this is asking for source rather than just posting "No".

It's joke that every one will hate one or the other. They make the same joke the other direction.

Because the operate in two different parts of the system. One is about our social systems and the other is about our legal systems.

Governments, contracts, civil and criminal litigation should work on a presumption of innocence (even if the bar is lower in civil court, it still exists), and require evidence (often an abundance of it, or so much it removes all shadows of doubt) to enact binding legal outcomes and punishments.

Groups, events and organizations should work on a basis of empathy and freedom of association. People generally don't want to associate with predators, abusers, and fascists (though the reactions of many commentators in hacker communities often make me question that assumption). And so many social systems are designed to filter those people out. And in more emotional settings like friend and support groups, believing victims is a way to exercise our empathy and provide mental and emotional support and healing for them. Which is the purpose of these groups.

This is like basic civics.

Theoretically no, practically yes.

You basically need people willing to donate lots of their time to read new on a specific subreddit constantly (there is a reason (in a consequentialist sense) mods tend to enforce their opinion on every post, it's cause they spend hours reading every single one already, and the kind of person willing to do that probably has some (obsessive) opinions).

There are some subreddits where you can be a mod and you get pinged and you make decision, and so you can spend your time doing other things and still help, but they are very small. And there are some tools that let you take the "and I get pinged and I make a decision" up to the larger subreddit scale, and tools which make reading new easier to do... these are the tools reddit is going to get rid of / make pay only.

So yea, it's going to be even harder to find some poor schmuck with no life willing to donate a bunch of their free time to create high quality subreddits that comply with the admin's rules (which is actually what a lot of "do whatever you want" mods end up spending most of their time dealing with). And the people they do find are going to have even stronger personal influences on subreddits than the current ones do.

Sure, but then you have to add back all the Java libraries they then used ontop of it. I assume the developer also used a tool like this to cut it down, the issue of bundling the custom Java runtime was never the size, it's that java was never supposed to need to do it this way (not that that is the end user developers fault of course).

Have you considered that they may have done this in "self defense" to the abuse this aggregator was causing them?

Besides, by your argument, connecting to websites at all is privilege. HN wants the privilege of reading their content (otherwise why not just block their site) without taking any responsibility for it.

I suspect they were aware of it. They didn't rely on it to block bad actors like bots or spammers or ddos-ers, they relied on it to block actors who were at some level implied to follow the social contract of how the internet works (e.g. a website focused at developers).

The actual lesson learned here I think is that certain communities don't have respect for the social contract when it benefits them. Though I suppose you are right, a team of linux users should never have expected a site ran by a venture capitalist firm to respect the social contract.

Depends how it's backed, how static it is, and so on.

The lisp runtime may fit in 20 MB, but not every language's runtime is so compressible. It may be smaller if one used something like C#/.NET where it's reasonable to assume, on windows, that everyone has specific common versions of the runtime laying around.

And then there are things like libraries. How dependent on the state of the OS do you want to be? Do you bring your own copy of SDL, or do you rely on it being installed? Even choice of graphics library can make a big difference, did you use something like DirectX which the OS will have all ready for you (assuming it supports it of course), or do you use something like OpenGL/Vulkan and invariably have to bring your own copies of various things like shader compilers and texture compression libraries.

In this case it's because it packages it's own copy of the JRE (which makes up more than 2/3rds of the contents). Which makes plain the greatest failure of Java, it was never a universal execution environment. Which is why every program ships their own copy of it and users no longer complain about "Update Java" notifications, or dealing with incompatible Java environments.

> I don't think that's even a little bit true.

Not even a little bit? The comparisons here are quite stark.

Russia's shadow government can just murder important people with no repercussions, they can jail whoever they want, and they commit plenty of warcrimes that are never recorded in such detail as the American ones.

China has internment camps for millions on it's soil as part of a campaign of cultural genocide, and it's government can also just disappear people if it wants to.

America is in no way perfect, or even objectively good or anything like that. But it is relatively better, just a little bit.

I think the interesting question is how they will "compare". If they compare favorably to that key learning, as "this kind of thing, but a better iteration on it" it won't much matter the quantity. As the article points out, it's not about this conflict, it's about the next one.

Obviously why it's only in the third ring.

The fourth ring or fifth ring is where it starts getting interesting.

I think you missed the actual answer. There is a near future sci-fi book called Rainbows End written by a computer science professor 15 years ago (and that predicted a lot of stuff, like... cryptocurrency) that has an answer for this.

What will be the real "VR metaverse" for most consumers is the one that maps to reality. The AR metaverse. Being able to visit people in real life in real locations, virtually: augmented reality. Where the virtual reality part of that is a small extra side bit for the dedicated people.

I mean to be clear up front she very much did do a crime, she is not a white hat hacker, however.

> Here is something that doesn't feel right.

I totally agree, it's a strong indicator of an oligarchy. Same as Chevron basically putting a lawyer in jail for suing them on behalf of the people's whose lands they poisoned. Threats to wealth are punished by our "justice" system more severely than similar crimes.

I do this exact same thing on linux without any issues. I use a presetup desktop environment, it's fine.

If I used arch or some other power user linux, I suspect I would have to jump through quite a few hoops to get this experience setup as nicely. But as someone who daily drives both a linux distribution and a windows distribution, I see no notable differences in clipboard functionality.

Except that things are weird in a kernel, one cannot guarantee that language behavior is enforceable. Even with a RAII/drop style solution there is a possibility that kernel weirdness will prevent it from running correctly.

The issue with forgetting function calls like this are the edge cases, and the kernel has a lot more of those.

A good comparison is probably video cards as I understand it.

I mean you have a good point. Which is why people should be afforded a basic income and guaranteed housing, so they can't be exploited like this.

I think you are listening to the wrong futurists then.

Yes but if said book was used in the commission of a crime there is a certain level where it doesn't matter.

Don't plug shit into private networks unless you want it reverse engineered. This falls under the fair use exceptions (learning what software is doing / was doing to your network).

The copyright holder can take it up with whoever they licensed it to, there is a reason a lot of them read "not to be used in the commission of a crime".

> Like, for example, evidence that the author actually takes security issues seriously and has a formal way to announce them.

Personally I think there is a business model in there. "Curated" code releases/versions by a trusted third party you pay to review all the code. It would be a boring job, like being an auditor.

Bonus points, you can pay an "ethical" one that then tries to get money to the OSS devs of libraries that their clients demand the most.

Not only that, it seems to actually have. All the developers started saying things like this:

> I also did not test the libquadmath portion. ENOTIME.

> I don't have much time, but

With every statement they added. It's actually like clockwork, every developer after that point said how they had little time.

I feel like that was the point the author was making:

> Obra Dinn achieves this by the simplest mechanism

I mean they had 10,000 users and 800 arrests. That's an 8% criminality rate, it seems like they didn't entrap anyone who wasn't committing crimes anyway. Entrapment is about trapping people in a situation where committing crimes is the best option available. Selling people a secure phone does not do that.

I think it was seen as a success since it was the event that turned the war around and led to the eventual victory of the Allies. Sort of a vacuously true type of success, the operation might have failed to meet most of it's objectives (I don't actually know) but that doesn't really matter since it led to "winning" the war.

However, of course, the truism that there are no winners in war remains. No military operation is going to have a low cost of human life, even a successful one.

If the person copied it from a legitimate version of windows that they originally bought, couldn't one then argue that they did have a license that they then violated?

I guess the point I am making is that I don't think that line tracks.

> i find it amazing how much tolerance is expressed when authoritarian rule is passed "for the kids sake".

> Are people really that ready to accept dictate over their and their kids behaviour in the name of moral and health?

To be clear, most commentators here are probably from outside China. There isn't anything anyone commentating here can do about this. So all we can really commentate is on the outcomes and what it might mean.