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Stunting··on The bottom is dropping out of Netflix
Then you are a thief who steals products that you don't enjoy.
Stunting··on The bottom is dropping out of Netflix
I assume that if people want to enjoy a service without paying for it, it's theft.

It's the "I don't want to pay for it, but I still want to watch it." that seems to be hang up for so many.

Let me explain it simply. That is stealing and it directly affects my ability to make a living as well the motivation for service providers to make more products you enjoy.

Stunting··on The bottom is dropping out of Netflix
Or we could all just admit that it's theft.

Society being in a lurch between how we handle our physical goods and our digital goods is a very important subject that is going to get ironed out over the next few generations I'm sure.

That doesn't make it not theft, even if its' really easy to do.

Stunting··on The bottom is dropping out of Netflix
"When it's so easy to steal why should I pay for it."

When you pay for things you like, more of it gets made.

Stunting··on The bottom is dropping out of Netflix
My real and passionate anger is directed constructively at those entities. Today I am providing a face and a name to people who think "piracy isn't stealing"
Stunting··on The bottom is dropping out of Netflix
Refusing to pay and refusing to consume is different morally from stealing.

I don't know where to find all those requirements. Perhaps they exist. If they are that big of a dealbreaker for you, don't consume the value provided by entertainment services.

When you decide that the exact moral high point is to consume the goods and services while still maintaining integrity about not providing the cash value asked of those things, you are justifying being a thief.

Stunting··on The bottom is dropping out of Netflix
To you. The service I provide to society is entertainment. Perhaps in the dystopian sand planet of the future that won't hold much value but right now on Today's earth, entertainment is a service that is valued by society.

In the future, I suspect we'll still have storytellers for the same reason we do today. To Inspire, educate, and entertain. I cannot envision society with zero entertainment.

Stunting··on The bottom is dropping out of Netflix
You, personally, are stealing from my income. All those issues you raise are valid and important issues to address. Stealing because those things make you angry makes you part of the problem.
Stunting··on The bottom is dropping out of Netflix
We get deprived of the income when it is consumed without providing money for that service.

If you watch it with your friends, 5 people watch it for one purchase. If it's good, you all tell 3 more people. Of those 15 people, 20 percent end up purchasing a viewing and the system repeats.

When you pirate it you take all the service for zero cost. That affects real people.

Stunting··on The bottom is dropping out of Netflix
around anywhere from 2 - 25 cents per viewing per consumer. Over the course of my career that can break down to easily 7 figures if I was to work on say the original Star Wars.
Stunting··on The bottom is dropping out of Netflix
my contract is directly related to the post box office profits of the movie.
Stunting··on The bottom is dropping out of Netflix
The workforce's income is contractually tied to the amount of post box office profit the film makes. When you steal a show you get the entertainment value without cost of your money. That is directly reflected in my income.
Stunting··on The bottom is dropping out of Netflix
I will happily take your money and provide you with a new, identical copy of it if that's the deal you want to make.
Stunting··on The bottom is dropping out of Netflix
No, it's the union job to do that for sure.

I'm only here to pop the balloon on the consumer's perception that "it's not theft." there's a face and a name that goes along with that theft. Thousands of them.

Stunting··on The bottom is dropping out of Netflix
Company's providing goods and services in a capitalistic society are entirely dependent on consumers providing the income for their workforce.

How else do you really think this whole thing works. You get to keep your money, but still get all the goods and services provided. That's just silly.

Stunting··on The bottom is dropping out of Netflix
You're copying the entertainment value provided and stealing the income that is related to that value.
Stunting··on The bottom is dropping out of Netflix
when you steal a viewing of a show, the income related to your consumption is directly stolen from me.
Stunting··on The bottom is dropping out of Netflix
when you pirate a show, no longer get the contractually based income related to your viewing.
Stunting··on The bottom is dropping out of Netflix
the income associated with IP very much does.
Stunting··on The bottom is dropping out of Netflix
This is a valid complaint. I would tell you that on the many streaming services available for free like youtube, vimeo, etc. There is probably a small filmmaker who is making the type of show you enjoy. Finding them, providing value by first clicks and shares and eventually with income as they grow will encourage more filmmakers to make things you like.
Stunting··on The bottom is dropping out of Netflix
:D
Stunting··on The bottom is dropping out of Netflix
Yes. It will get worse. Support the type of content you want and you'll see more.
Stunting··on The bottom is dropping out of Netflix
Yet. I do have minor creative input depending on the production. When an audience shows they enjoy something I am able to argue more fiercly to include a similar thing into the next one.

And someday I'll be makign my own productions.

Stunting··on The bottom is dropping out of Netflix
Thank you, It's long overdue to update. I appreciate the bump
Stunting··on The bottom is dropping out of Netflix
you are able to pay for individual film and tv shows right now through Amazon and Apple, i'm sure others.

I do advocate for change, within my own union. Today I am educating consumers on who exactly they are stealing from when they pirate shows.

Stunting··on The bottom is dropping out of Netflix
I'll go into your mailbox and take your paycheck. I'll provide you with a new identical copy of it. I'll leave the previous existing copy intact, but in my possession.

Which one of us gets to deposit the money?

Stunting··on The bottom is dropping out of Netflix
In this example, the banking provides the service of a safe place to keep my money until I spend it. That's what I pay for, in the form account fees and the banks ability to leverage my saved money for their financial gain.
Stunting··on The bottom is dropping out of Netflix
Ah, now that is a point. I don't expect consumers to take on my personal union politics. That is the duty of the workforce and their union..

Which is more powerful if consumers don't steal money out of their pocket.

Pay for cool things and you'll get more cool things.

Stunting··on The bottom is dropping out of Netflix
This literally how the financial system is set up. Consumers provide money to a workforce that provides good and services that society enjoys. In turn, that workforce consumes goods and services providing income to a different workforce.

When you steal cool stuff, cool stuff stops getting made.

Stunting··on The bottom is dropping out of Netflix
100 percent agree. Voting with dollars is the fastest and best way to make better products.

The big studios know how many people are watching their stuff via theft. They are going to keep producting low end crap with studio friendly sponsorships, because piracy will have taught them that is a better business model.

Pay of the things you want to see and you'll see more of them.

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