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TuringTest··on Chile to Nationalize Lithium Industry
If by totalitarian you mean "democratically elected government not playing to the US tune", you'd have it right. But I don't think that's what you meant.

Chile was building early some feedback-based information systems like what modern corporations use. They may have worked or failed, but we will never know because the US government indirectly promoted and financed a military coup that installed an actual murderer totalitarian regime.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_intervention_in_...

TuringTest··on Deseret Alphabet
To modern Spanish, very little difference. It was not consistent in past times either, with classic authors from the Spanish golden age using varying spellings.

Just wanted to point out that the variation of sound is not random, but with the sound tied to the letter. Also Spain has something that English does not, which is an official organisation studying the language and making official rules recognising how it's used at different contexts and zones.

TuringTest··on Deseret Alphabet
They do have different pronunciations, it's just than most speakers have lost the distinction. B is plosive and V is fricative.

Some regions still make that difference, at least senior people do. I had a language teacher from old Castille who sound her spelling of v and b very clearly. She made the distinction between 'll' and 'y' clear as well, with 'll' sounding as a modified 'l', a cross between 'li' and 'ye'.

TuringTest··on We're afraid language models aren't modeling ambiguity
So, what was previously called 'persuading'.
TuringTest··on Beautiful branchless binary search
Wasn't C created to avoid matching hardware? I.e. not caring about word size, number of registers, instruction set, etc.

I thought the whole point of writing programs in C was originally being able to write portable software (and a portable OS) that could be executed at different machines? It only became specialized in giving machine-specific instructions when other languages took over.

TuringTest··on Lithuanian university locks out students again for not using proprietary 2FA
>It's kind of hard to follow the moral stance here.

Fighting for civil rights often makes you look like a prick, because you keep laser-focused on your goal and need to counter all the reasonable-sounding objections of people who were following their daily routines before this ball-breaker came along; but it is nevertheless necessary.

Contrary to Hollywood films, people don't stamp on other people's rights because they have some inner impulse to do evil, but because injustices are ingrained in the common way to do things, and fixing then implies to deviate from those routines; that's why it's so hard to change them.

That's the real meaning of the sentence "for evil to triumph, all it takes is for good people to do nothing". The movie script of a hero taken the matter in their hands and saving the world with heavy guns is but a fantasy

TuringTest··on I’m ChatGPT, and for the love of God please don’t make me do anymore copywriting
That's the reason why a doctor with Google is better than a doctor without Google. That doesn't mean that Google or ChatGPT without a doctor is a good idea.
TuringTest··on I’m ChatGPT, and for the love of God please don’t make me do anymore copywriting
You were not purposely-built to maximize your genetics. You just happen to be a member of a population that happened to outnumber other populations with different genetics.

"Purpose" is something we project onto the world, not something that nature possesses.

TuringTest··on I’m ChatGPT, and for the love of God please don’t make me do anymore copywriting
No. Next question?
TuringTest··on I’m ChatGPT, and for the love of God please don’t make me do anymore copywriting
On the contrary, it might surface what good and bad scientists have been doing.

A summary of everything that's going on in a scientific field may allow reviewers to find out which processes are solid, which ones are grounded on faulty premises or bad data, and which ones merit further research. Doing the same without the AI summarisations could take decades of review work.

TuringTest··on I’m ChatGPT, and for the love of God please don’t make me do anymore copywriting
That's like saying that a Google search beat real doctors, because the results surfaced a recent study they didn't hear about. That doesn't make Google better than doctors at diagnosing.
TuringTest··on What's the Difference Between Empathy, Sympathy, and Compassion?
There's low wisdom stats, too :P
TuringTest··on Rules for developers to design beautiful UIs without a designer
But if you skip the looks in your design, you'll end up with a product that works worse. It may not look rational, but then humans do not have a 100% rational behaviour.

https://lawsofux.com/aesthetic-usability-effect/

TuringTest··on Rules for developers to design beautiful UIs without a designer
There's even a name for that effect: Emotional Design

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_Design

TuringTest··on Lessons Learned About One-Way, Dataflow Constraints in Garnet and Amulet (2001) [pdf]
Funnily, CSS flexbox and grid models can be seen as a kind of constraint layout system. Penpot, the Figma competitor, has even implemented a flexbox subset as its layout mechanism.

The moral of the story, if there's one, is that constraints may be useful if they reflect common design rules and the system is built around those cases with high level abstractions, but simply allowing any possible low-level constraint may be too complex for the case of designing GUIs.

TuringTest··on New Orleans teenagers found a new proof of the Pythagorean Theorem
> The reason to come up new proofs these days is solely for the novelty, not because we have a need for a simpler proof.

On the contrary, every new way to prove a known theorem has the potential to be applicable in other areas of the same or related fields, extending the mathematicians' toolset with new instruments. These new methods often serve as a seed for new discoveries.

TuringTest··on We need to tell people ChatGPT will lie to them, not debate linguistics
'Reasoning' (as in deriving new statements with precision, following logical inference rules) is precisely what the large language models can't do.

It's better to think of this models as 'generating' chains of relevant words, where 'relevant' is defined by similarity of those areas of knowledge on which it has been trained, and which are "activated" as close to the topics in the prompt. Which is not at all dissimilar to how humans learn about a new topic, btw.

This way, by "activating" concepts of areas of knowledge and finding words that are more likely than others to fit those concepts, the model is able to create texts following the constraints you instruct it with - such as poems that rhyme, or critical analysis of scientific articles.

The most important point to be aware of is that this creation model is completely different to how automatic reasoning models create content, which is by having a formal representation of a knowledge domain and creating logical inferences that can be mathematically proven correct within the model. A reasoning model cannot lie, but it cannot create content beyond the logical implications of its premises; its quite the opposite of what language models do.

TuringTest··on We need to tell people ChatGPT will lie to them, not debate linguistics
I have not said there is no value in LLMs, quite the contrary.

What I'm warning is against thinking of them as independent agents with their own minds, because they don't work like that at all, so you'd be anthropomorphising them.

These models certainly have a compilation of knowledge, but it is statistical knowledge - in the same way as a book of logarithms has lots of mathematical knowledge, but you wouldn't say that the book 'knows logarithms'. The compilation contains statistical 'truths' about the topics on which it has been trained; and contrary to a written book, that knowledge can be used operationally to build new information.

Yet that static knowledge does not reach the point of having a will of its own; there is nothing in the content generation system that makes it take decisions or establish its own objectives from its statistical tables of compiled knowledge.

TuringTest··on We need to tell people ChatGPT will lie to them, not debate linguistics
Yup, I've been thinking about this topic since long before large language model existed :P
TuringTest··on We need to tell people ChatGPT will lie to them, not debate linguistics
Large language models have read everything, and they don't know anything.

They are excellent imitators, being able to clone the style and contents of any subject or source you ask for. When you prompt them, they will uncritically generate a text that combines the relevant topics in creative ways, without the least understanding of their meaning.

Their original training causes them to memorize lots of concepts, both high and low level, so they can apply them while generating new content. But they have no reception or self-assessment of what they are creating.

TuringTest··on Simply explained: How does GPT work?
Yes, I would say that a brain without the capacity to form new memories has degraded thinking capabilities.
TuringTest··on Simply explained: How does GPT work?
> What gives you any confidence that the way GPT4 comes up with answers is qualitatively different from humans?

For a start, GPT-4 doesn't include in its generation the current state of its internal knowledge used so far; any text built can only use at most the few words already generated in the current session as a kind of short-term memory.

Biological brains OTOH have a rhythm with feedback mechanisms which adapt to the situation where they're doing the thinking.

TuringTest··on Simply explained: How does GPT work?
I don't think the substrate defines the nature of the thinking, but the form of the process does.

It is entirely possible to build mechanical thinking in organic material (think Turing machines built on growing tissue), and it could also be possible to build complex self-referential processes simulated on electronic hardware, of the kind high-level brains do, with their rhythms of alfa and beta waves.

TuringTest··on My long goodbye to Windows XP (2022)
You're comparing using an obsolete version full of known exploits in the wild, which may be hacked by automated scripts, with adopting a bleeding edge system which may or may not have undisclosed vulnerabilities potentially know only by a few elite researchers? Try again.

Also you're missing the obvious solution, using a long-term support system with a robust audit process and well timed security releases. Author's setup will NOT be safer than that.

TuringTest··on My long goodbye to Windows XP (2022)
> This is addressed two paragraphs after the one you've quoted.

And it's equally an incomplete assessment based on the same "This is fine" attitude. The computer could be participating in a botnet dedicated to bring down the network in hospitals or steal their sensitive medical data, and the author would never know.

TuringTest··on LoRA: Low-Rank Adaptation of Large Language Models
It's larger, but there are less parameters to train for your specific use case since you are training the small matrix only, while the original ones remain unaltered.
TuringTest··on Every possible Wordle solution visualized
Some advice: you may want to improve the instructions of the game. There's no clear indication of what to do when the first 5-letter word has been typed - it merely bumps the word if you type more letters, or shows a cryptic message "Type your guess on the keyboard to begin!" if the square is clicked.

As for visualizations, you may want to take a look at mathematical relations [1]. Each cell is a variable with the alphabet as its domain (which is pruned as you guess correct values), and the words are 5-arity relations between rows and columns. You may represent the local relations surrounding the cell pointed by the mouse.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relation_(mathematics)#Represe...

TuringTest··on Richard Stallman's Ted talk in Steve Jobs' style/voice (elevenlabs.io/ChatGPT)
I dunno, listening to this makes me doubt the concept of Free Software, all the time thinking "where's the catch"? :-P
TuringTest··on Testing GPT 4's code-writing capabilities with some real world problems
> Are hallucination is a systemic for-ever problem that will not be solved, mitigated or in akne other way rendered inconsequential?

In the same way that wrong results in a search engine will not be solved or mitigated in its entirety, yes. These new generative AIs are big search engines that bring results from several content points and combine them into a single, plausible stream of words.

TuringTest··on Dalai: Automatically install, run, and play with LLaMA on your computer
> Advanced AI is the warhead.

In that case, this current batch is not "advanced AI". It is a big autocomplete panel which retrieves content already present in its training corpus, and presents it in new shapes; it is not ready to define new goals with a purpose and follow them to completion.

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