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VoxPelli··on Swedish court rules against Tesla in dispute with postal service over deliveries
The Tesla employees are behind it. Maybe not all. Some because they are scared of getting punished by Tesla. Something Tesla has indeed threatened with as far as I’m aware.
VoxPelli··on Swedish court rules against Tesla in dispute with postal service over deliveries
It’s easy to avoid actions like this:

Sign a collective bargain with a union and all unions are bound to leave you at peace for that agreements duration.

So far two international companies have refused this:

Toys R Us decades ago, eventually they had to give in.

Tesla now.

VoxPelli··on Swedish court rules against Tesla in dispute with postal service over deliveries
It’s the Swedish transport authority that ships the license plates and PostNord has won that tender and there is no way this will impact that.

You can’t have a “should not respect strikes” clause in your tender, especially not as a government agency

VoxPelli··on Swedish court rules against Tesla in dispute with postal service over deliveries
Not really, unions provides the workers with representatives in the management which essentially bridges management and workers and lessens the divide
VoxPelli··on Swedish court rules against Tesla in dispute with postal service over deliveries
Unions in Sweden works closely with the industry to find good deals that makes both companies and workers prosper.

Unions here know that if the companies doesn’t prosper, so won’t the people employed by it.

So the industry and the unions negotiate agreements that ensures we have the strongest companies with the healthiest workers.

Sure, one side represents the company leadership and the other the workers, but they have a shared goal and collaborate on that, knowing that government legislation would be worse for everyone and not be agile and adaptable to the needs of different industries.

VoxPelli··on Swedish court rules against Tesla in dispute with postal service over deliveries
Klarna also had a breakdown with unions but ultimately signed an agreement in the last minute before strikes started to happen.

What makes Tesla different from Klarna and Spotify is that Tesla has a global policy to never sign. So Tesla’s Swedish company is prohibited by Tesla to do any kind of negotiation, and that escalates things drastically.

VoxPelli··on Swedish court rules against Tesla in dispute with postal service over deliveries
The postal workers doesn’t care what it is that’s delivered to Tesla, nothing is delivered, but apparently Tesla is only upset about the license plates

So it’s all about the receiver, and it’s not the only reason one can have to refuse to deliver, in other cases safety and work environment has been cited.

I’m not sure what happens with the mail though, if it’s sent back to the sender or put in piles

VoxPelli··on Swedish court rules against Tesla in dispute with postal service over deliveries
But sympathy strikes goes further and now affects superchargers, offices and even Swedish suppliers to the gigafactory.

Lucky for Musk that he picked a Finnish supplier for the Cybertruck steel…

VoxPelli··on Swedish court rules against Tesla in dispute with postal service over deliveries
The strike has been ongoing for a couple of weeks but in the result of Tesla refusing to negotiate despite five years of attempts from the union. So it’s actually ongoing for +5 year
VoxPelli··on Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?
For the planet: Not much better
VoxPelli··on Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?
With a 7-10 year lifespan it’s only the initial cost that may be big, the cost over time is much less and the resell value once one upgrades also holds up much better over time
VoxPelli··on Swedish court rules against Tesla in dispute with postal service over deliveries
They are not refusing based on content, they are refusing based on recipient – two very different things.

It just so happens that license plates are one of the things that gets blocked. Not because they are license plates but because Tesla is the receiver.

VoxPelli··on Swedish court rules against Tesla in dispute with postal service over deliveries
And important to note as well: Swedish firefighters are not refusing to put out fires at Tesla workshops
VoxPelli··on Swedish court rules against Tesla in dispute with postal service over deliveries
It’s there if employees want it and in eg many smaller companies there are no such agreements.

It’s up to the companies and unions to handle.

When Tesla has refused that for 5 years + have a global policy to refuse, then they are not handling it, which makes companies and unions react.

To be clear: Companies in Sweden largely prefer this model over one governed by law.

VoxPelli··on Swedish court rules against Tesla in dispute with postal service over deliveries
The Volvo EX30 will apparently be competitively priced and manufactured in Belgium for the European market eventually
VoxPelli··on Swedish court rules against Tesla in dispute with postal service over deliveries
We are quite capable of producing our own vehicles and batteries

Volvo Cars, Polestar, Volvo AB, Scania, Koenigsegg, Northvolt and also new ones like Emily GT, Candella, Einride etc Even our own fighter jets, submarines and military ships through Saab.

VoxPelli··on Swedish court rules against Tesla in dispute with postal service over deliveries
Not liking someone is arbitrary and subjective

Swedish unions are not subjecting Tesla to strikes because they dislike Tesla or Musk, they are doing it to ensure they sign a collective bargain

VoxPelli··on Swedish court rules against Tesla in dispute with postal service over deliveries
Which is what it is in this case, a union which strikes
VoxPelli··on Swedish court rules against Tesla in dispute with postal service over deliveries
Collective rights against an individual company*

Sweden protects the rights of workers

VoxPelli··on Swedish court rules against Tesla in dispute with postal service over deliveries
The point of the Swedish model is to avoid micro management from the state and instead of mandating work regulations through law businesses and unions can negotiate sector specific agreements that suits the very people and companies that it affects.

Businesses and unions are better at knowing the needs of companies and people than what any government is.

Not everything has to be achieved through laws.

In Sweden we generally prefer to avoid laws whenever possible, deferring to best practices, common sense and business agreements.

That’s a much much nicer model than what we now get from eg EU where we get micro-level law making that deals with everything and more

VoxPelli··on Swedish court rules against Tesla in dispute with postal service over deliveries
Arbitrary discrimination can’t be compared to organized union strikes?
VoxPelli··on Swedish court rules against Tesla in dispute with postal service over deliveries
Volvo Cars is a company incorporated in Sweden and is traded on the Stockholm stock exchange. It does have a Chinese majority owner, but also large Swedish institutional investors and have to abide by Swedish corporate regulation and the regulations of the Stockholm stock exchange, so unfortunately it’s more complex than what you want it to be.

Polestar is in turn majority owned by Volvo Cars but also traded on the New York Stock Exchange, having to abide by rules there

Also, remember that time when Elon Musk claimed he would make Tesla private in cooperation with Saudi Arabia?

Also speaking of Saab: The Emily GT is set to start production in the old Saab factory soon, if/when that happens it looks like a solid Tesla Model S competitor.

Lastly: Remember the Tesla Semitruck? Well, Volvo and Scania is performing a bit better there… And Northvolt is supplying them batteries, and the Swedish carbon free steel will soon provide them great raw materials…

VoxPelli··on Swedish court rules against Tesla in dispute with postal service over deliveries
Both, unlike in the US the Swedish post office is privatized and handled by multiple companies, eg Citymail also offers postal services.

PostNord has won the tender with the Swedish transport authority though and as such is the one they should use.

PostNord is the result of the merger between the privatized (but state owned) Swedish and Danish postal services.

But also – union rights and postal rights needs to be weighed against each other here – both are important

VoxPelli··on Candela P-12 taking off – Electric hydrofoiling passenger vessel [video]
They have sensors that detects waves and adjusts the hydrofoils to avoid crashing into the water.

If one would like to use hype words I guess one could call them AI-driven hydrofoils or something

VoxPelli··on Candela P-12 taking off – Electric hydrofoiling passenger vessel [video]
“We use an advanced control system that stabilizes the naturally unstable boat in just about any condition. Sensors around the perimeter of our boats measure wave height and feed this information to our Flight Controller. Height, roll and pitch data are as well. The Flight Controller is then able to adjust the position at up to 100 times per second, in order to achieve stability.”

That’s from Candela’a own webpage, and the following older article mentions:

“Many of them have worked at aerospace and technology companies such as Eurocopter, Saab Gripen, and Volvo.”

https://www.torqeedo.com/en/news-and-press/blog/blog-2020-12...

I think Candela is basically what happens when you take Swedish engineering tradition, combine it with skills attained from building advanced fighter jets and the challenge of making electric boats have a reasonable range at all.

Some added bonuses you get: Barely any wake, so you can run fast without disrupting others or the wildlife / nature.

VoxPelli··on Financial situation of the Matrix.org Foundation
Josh literally started less than six months ago and is the first employee of the foundation – do you think that there are some papers ready here and now for him to hand out?

Needlessly aggressive tone from you…

VoxPelli··on Financial situation of the Matrix.org Foundation
Josh has quite the track record from elsewhere, having eg served as president for the very Open Source Initiative itself, so I do think it’s fair to give him time here
VoxPelli··on Swedish unions strike: Blocks mail and package deliveries for Tesla
What Tesla is currently doing is overly aggressive to the Swedish labor market model, so in that perspective it’s not disproportionate.
VoxPelli··on Swedish unions strike: Blocks mail and package deliveries for Tesla
When I looked at Avanza today it said 82%?
VoxPelli··on Swedish unions strike: Blocks mail and package deliveries for Tesla
Unions ensure that workers are not pitted against one another

The one race to the bottom is workers from other countries within the European Union as the free market and movement within EU complicates things then.

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