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The unions and the employer organizations both ensure we have strong businesses in Sweden.

The unions doesn’t always try to get the most out of the companies in the short term but rather plays the long game and helps out in ensuring the company are healthy as well.

In times of economic trouble they can eg collectively negotiate solutions that minimize the amount of job cuts by temporarily worsen the policies for the employees.

The collective bargains applies to both members and non-members at the work place though.

They also have superchargers here – and the sympathy strikes from electricians will include them as well.

And third party service workshops have also been included, so one of the best selling cars in Sweden right now will not be possible to service and neither possible to actually get shipped to Sweden.

It’s to force Tesla to respect the agreed upon model of the Swedish labor market.

Instead of having the government decide everything we let the employer organizations and the unions negotiate deals that are adapted to the needs of the sector they are in.

The employers and workers knows much better what is needed to make companies and workers flourish and giving them the freedom to negotiate without having the government meddling with it – that has been very beneficial to Sweden.

In this agreement it has been understood that employers respect the strikes of workers and doesn’t replace striking workers with other workers.

Now Tesla is actively trying to circumvent the strikes and that is pretty much unheard of here and threatens to set a precedent that threatens the entire model of the Swedish labor market.

That’s why there are these strong sympathy strikes now – as Tesla responded to the first strike by attacking the very foundation of our employer-worker relation here in Sweden.

So it’s more than just forcing unionization, it’s about forcing Tesla to respect the Swedish labor market and how we collectively bargain here.

They are non-profits?

Volvo Cars AB is a publicly traded Swedish company traded on the Stockholm stock exchange.

They have to comply with all relevant Swedish laws for a public Swedish company and all requirements imposed by the Stockholm stock exchange.

Geely Holding owns 82% of Volvo Cars AB according to recent data. Swedish pension companies AMF and Folksam are second and third largest owner with 3.8% and 2.0% of the votes.

So while Geely of course has a massive influence on the company, they can not do whatever they want, they have to abide by the rules and respect the other owners as well, and the other owners are also present on eg the board

Volvo has factories in Sweden, Belgium, USA, China and maybe some additional one I have forgotten about. Their main one is in Gothenburg, Sweden.

The new EX30 will also be built in Belgium it was recently announced.

And Volvo is looking at building new factories in USA.

It’s on top of, as the maximum you can get from public unemployment funds are capped fairly low nowadays and rarely reaches the intended 80%, hence why the unions steps in and offers extra insurance

Unions typically offer collectively bargained felt insurance and such here as well

International solidarity between unions is a natural part of being a union

(Well, unless when you want to protect jobs from moving abroad, then the solidarity is gone. Eg. the German unions are great at ensuring that any job cuts happens in other European countries instead of in Germany)

We have no such race to the bottom here in Sweden

Same here in Sweden - when a company doesn’t have a collective agreement they also don’t have a right to have peace with the unions, so then the unions can put pressure on them to get a collective agreement and when that succeeds there will be a collective agreement that then apply to all employees

And when the government is in on it as well and gives the unions and employer organizations room to be innovative and flexible with one another, then it’s even a net gain over having the government giving detailed guidelines for everything

And:

* Electricians won’t do work on office/factory/superchargers

Indeed, I wonder if Unionen, who almost went on strike with Klarna, will also join in on some way. Surely there must we many Unionen members working in relation to Tesla as well

Also wonder if/when any other Nordic union will join in.

Eg the dockworkers union in Finland or such.

Yeah, the idea of the Swedish model being that it’s better for employers and workers union to decide details as then they can be adapted to the need of every specific field rather than be dictated by the government and be the same for all.

Makes for a much more agile, progressive and cooperative environment that benefits both businesses and workers.

Unions in Sweden don’t try to get paid the most possible by the employers – they want fair wages and healthy companies and together with employer organizations they try to make up rules that benefit both, as healthy companies and happy workers are beneficial for all parties

Hamnarbetarförbundet has joined Transport, so now both the dockworkers union have joined

Other recent HN posts on same topic:

- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38190645

- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38191008

- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38190600

Two other HN posts (that are not paywalls):

- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38190645

- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38191008

The union for swedish postal / delivery workers are also joining: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38190645

English update in sympathy strikes here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38191008

Eg. the dockworkers’ union and maintenance workers’ union are joining in with sympathy strikes against Tesla Sweden

It is an open standard: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-privacypass...

"Privacy Pass tokens are unlinkable, one-time-use authenticators that can be used to anonymously authorize a client"

People from Apple, Google and Cloudflare are all editors of the spec and eg Fastly has also blogged about it: https://www.fastly.com/blog/private-access-tokens-stepping-i...

Excerpt from Fastly's article above:

> When you put this together, no one entity can link client identity to website activity. And yet, this authorizes access to a website – all while eliminating human interactions.

StackAid is better in this regard:

1. Is bootstrapped rather than VC backed as far as I understand 2. Treats itself as one dependency among many, so it isn’t favored over other receivers 3. Rather it is penalized against other receivers as it at most will get 7.5% of one’s monthly donation: https://www.stackaid.us/

It doesn’t paywall anything, you can’t say that only people who support you on StackAid gets A or B.

(One idea I think we toyed with at Flattr, which was also a flat fee donation system, was to potentially enable people to lock something down on whether you donated to anything at all, but ultimately decided that the internet was meant to be opened and thus we added mechanisms to Flattr to make it really hard to abuse it as a paywall, which eg Germans loved but most Americans was really confused by )

As a Swede: Norway can for sure export their electricity and it’s quite useful to us

Remember that this is probably only net-positive if you use the heat generated for something useful.

Eg: Using electricity to run a computer that generates heat is more beneficial than generating heat directly from that electricity.

But in eg the summer when you have no use of that heat you have to weigh the calculation output versus the energy input and only when that calculation is positive you can justify running it. (And if you plan to cool it down with an AC then the equation will for sure not pay off)

I think I prefer StackAid, it funds the entire chain of dependencies and doesn't lock anything down: https://www.stackaid.us/

The code is Apache 2.0 licensed though? Can they really add a limitation like this?

So, will CoreScore get a new leader? https://corescore.store/

100% this, the marketing team wants to have Google Tag Manager to inject random marketing scripts all across the page and management backs them up and then the development team has no insight to or no say in what actual scripts are run on a specific page.

That said: This is a GDPR nightmare and so is Google Tag Manager

This assumes that GitHub Copilot only gets its data from GitHub and that GitHub Copilot is unique among tools.

Remember the old saying: Anything published on the internet stays on the internet.

What prohibits someone from crawling code from other sites and building a GitHub Copilot equivalent?

Considering how ChatGPT style bots are often trained on public websites that is likely to already be true even.