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There are both types of protest right now in China. Many are anti-local government, asking for the central government to help rein in the provincial and city-level officials who are the ones actually responsible for enforcing zero-Covid.
But there are also many pro-democracy/human rights type people coming out as well, especially in Shanghai and on university campuses. There are tons of videos of them calling for democracy, for Xi Jinping to step down, that kind of thing. You can find them on Twitter, but you’ll have to sort through all of the spam that the Chinese government is flooding relevant hashtags with.
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But I also feel that it’s important to acknowledge that if it was wrong for the US, it is wrong for Russia. There are too many people out there who aren’t really being sincere with their arguments and are using US crimes to justify Russian ones.
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The fact that AP backpedaled like this shows how shaky all the evidence was.
You're comparing your impression of a bunch of poor quality news with an article by the AP and calling it backpedaling. The AP did not backpedal, because it never said that Xinjiang was worse than the Holocaust.
Further, things can change with time... that AP article is saying that things used to be much worse.
That said, I don’t think it would be worth it. You usually don’t want to take the first wave in a big set anyways, because if you miss it then you can get stuck in the impact zone for the whole set.
By the way, your statement was about "Western China watchers," not some or even most. You may not have meant it that way, but that's how you said it.
And I'm guessing that the definition of censorship in this paper is based on things that are actually removed from the internet, which is not the whole picture. Movies, songs, TV, news, and books all have to be approved by the party before distribution. Education is controlled by the government. There's also the comments that people don't make in the first place because they know it will be censored. That line is always being pushed, and it's purposefully vague. There was a teacher in Sichuan a month or so ago who made a very polite, short comment saying he wondered if the government would consider other strategies on their covid response and he went to jail for 2 weeks!
How do you think people break out of their set opinions? Where did those opinions come from in the first place?
If someone genuinely feels that mainstream opinion in China is wrong on Taiwan, they aren't going to be comfortable discussing it openly.