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> I did not use a denominator. It was the CDC. Do you have a problem with their methodology?
"Deaths reported as adverse events aren't necessarily due to the vaccine (they may be reported simply because they happen after administration of the vaccine)."
> You repeated what I said, but omitted a part. This distinction is not made (and cannot be made most of the time) with COVID-19. It's therefore an equivalent comparison. Well, as long as you compare it to mortality rate on population rather than infected that is (0.23% is for infected).
"The vaccines do not gene edit (this is what 'gene therapy' implies)."
> I'm not even sure why you are so annoyed by gene therapy. It plays no part in my argument. If you don't like gene therapy, then call it new vaccination method X. It's weird how people are alarmed by the moniker "gene therapy", but do it anyway if you don't call it like that.
"Like I said, you are confused in multiple ways and should stop. "
> You said I spread misinformation while using CDC and WHO. That was clearly not correct. Direct your anger at my argument and not at me please; maybe you see the futility of your anger then.
> I did not say anything about the mechanism.
"Linking to the top level of VAERs and claiming it says something it doesn't is the issue."
> That is not what you said tho. You said I spread misinformation. I did point to top level because the links to the actual query are not working after a few days. Just query it for COVID-19 vaccines and sort it by events reported or pick death as symptom beforehand.
Result: 3.5% dead. There is no distinction made if it is coincidence (which is not made with COVID-19 as well) and it's not representative, given that elderly are vaccinated first. Average age of vaccination is 50 years afaik. It's even a pretty high lethality compared to COVID-19 lethality for an average age of 80 btw.
Using a roughly tested vaccination which does not even stop the spread of the virus (from vaccinated people that is) widespread, sounds not like a good proposition.
Also lethality of COVID-19 turns out to be ~0.23%[0]. And while we know nothing of long-term effects of the new gene therapy vaccination, it already seems more deadly than COVID-19 short-term[1].
Maybe gene therapy vaccinations will be the future (that could be game changing), but this whole disaster really steals credibility.
[0]:https://www.who.int/bulletin/online_first/BLT.20.265892.pdf
Btw Swedes live mostly in the south and in big cities (100k+). You didn't even check that.
While you were smearing me you missed to make an argument.
You apparently think that you can believe in science as some kind of religion, but that is not how any of this works. There is not single science answer for these kind of topics, so you can't avoid arguments. Try refute it! I wanna see it.
Also when you think about it, the permanent mask usage has some serious hygienic downsides.
1. You need to touch your face way more often (reseat+put on/off)
2. Most masks still allow viri to go through (especially on the sides)
3. Masks are often reused and used for too long (correct usage would need either a lot of money+time or hundreds of masks/month)
The positive effects of masks in this pandemic are pretty debatable especially given the "circumstantial" evidence.
[0]: https://imgur.com/a/MNlOoTN
[1]: https://github.com/owid/covid-19-data/blob/master/public/dat...
I'm not saying that the NSA has any involvement in this situation, but clearly their strategy is sometimes to undermine security. It's not their whole schtick, because of NOBUS, but still part of it.
The version is also split on GitHub[1] and I can only guess why.
My hands are clean. I washed them.
On a more serious note tho, I particularly don't like the mixing of people and time. For example: There is no point in accusing German people for the war crimes of WWII when they were born decades later.
It does make a bit more sense when you look at current (war) crimes of your country (or collective in general) tho, but the extent to which you are to blame is probably still very very low (but not zero) and gets lower the bigger the collective is, if you have (close to) no political power.
Occam/Hitchen's Razor.
> The one part I want to clarify is the part about downvoting. That was addressed to readers in general, not you.
So you actually don't reply to my argument, but to your "audience", however technically replying to my post. You see the issue?
It's about Putin and you need proof for this claim (against Putin) and not the other way around. Proving a negative is pretty much impossible in this case.
> I assume you think navalny faked his novichok poisoning or do you at least admit Putin is ruthless and attempts to poison his enemies.Putin’s henchmen poisoning navalny is fake in your opinion right?
Red Herring.
> A bunch of unsupported statements against widely believed concepts ...
Appeal to the people.
PS.: I downvote nothing.
It would obviously fairer if they made a paywall, but also defeat the purpose (they don't fulfill anyway).
Hey, how about you show me where Parler incited violence or where Trump did that. I don't care about buzzwords like misinformation or hatred - Twitter cares neither - but I do care about inciting violence.
In exchange I show you tweets from Khamanei - ayatollah of Iran.
> Because by that logic, we should also allow ISIS, Al-Qaeda et al. to do their thing.
ISIS/Al-Qaeda/Al-Nusra/Taliban whatever are terrorist groups; they don't only incite violence. Also putting misinformation and hatred in the same category as actual terror groups is really not wise.
Only as long you don't have the wrong opinion.
> It’s extremely easy to build a website, host it, have people type in a few letters and numbers, and “reach” each other. It’s never been easier, or cheaper. It’s as free market as it gets.
And where do you find it? Google? Also the witch-hunt doesn't stop there. Next up is the hosting (looking at Parler). I can't wait to see when registrars are next and you have to type in a dynamic IP given by the ISP. But everyone could reach you, they just have to know the IP. If that really would be viable ISP would be the next logical step in the witch-hunt.
The part with "in union" is not really explained by ML models. These de-platforming actions are done manually and apparently one-sided.
Just for fun you can look up why Trump was banned on Twitter and see Khamenei's worst tweets from months prior, that were still up a week ago or so (nevermind him being banned). You find tons of those examples.
Also the TOS does not matter.
Moral of the story: Power currupts.
This data is there at any rate however confederated chat apps can use different servers (so data is not congregated) and you can also change accounts easily (it's harder to change phone number).
For Samsung I think it is the latter, since many apps have the same problem on Samsung.