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The cost of electricity for the loads I can control, such as those other heating or cooling living space, would have to 10x for it to be worth worrying about the cost, which would mean a $1400/MWH. The ceiling on the wholesale market price in ontario, last time I checked, was $2000/MWH.
I can see the price of electricity rising quite a bit across the board, but I don’t think people are going to inconvenience themselves at all to respond to it.
$x is usually not very big since the modus operandi for the bulk electric system in North America has been everyone can use as much power as they want whenever they want, so we have had lots of supply.
But a couple of times per year $x could be thousands of dollars per MW per hour, for a few hours. So not worth the effort really.
Maybe Tesla will offer the demand response more geographically so distribution utilities can also use it for peak shaving on their substations. But that is pretty brave area to be operating in for a utility, depending on Tesla to avoid overloading transformers or risk a localized black out.
There would have to be a serious penalty for bidding in the demand response but then not performing as well.
I agree it does seem far fetched at this time.
Edit: price signals to consumers is probably a better mechanism
Turn the breaker off and plug something in and see if it turns on
Dispatchable generally means you can tell the source when to generate as opposed to when not to.
We mounted it on a pile to a shed made of metal covered foam panels, the whole shed blew over. Guyed it down after that.
I was looking at the canvas element to do an electrical single line diagram.
I picture my colleagues or young engineers 20 years from now combing through my programs, learning the problem domain, learning the tradeoffs we made at the time and why it made sense.
Traditional scada systems have such brutal plotting abilities they are ripe for disruption
Victoria metrics/ grafana is supplanting our industrial historian, which is admittedly not a best in class product - I am sure osi pi is better
If the alternative is having no lights and no industry operating the extra cost of dispatchable power pales in comparison to the losses due to blackouts.
Maybe that page is AI generated but Google is displaying a relevant although incorrect result