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Interesting. This is the first I've heard of that.
Discussion starts in Part V / Section 46 at https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/e-4.5/FullText.html
They are asking the prime minister to drop the mandates or step down.
I agree that it isn't reasonable to expect the federal government to tell the provinces what to do, but they have been protests in all the major cities as well (so far as I can tell).
For example, with the trucker protest right now, all the mainstream media outlets have been very critical of the protests, describing them as violent, racist, homophobic, and so on. Conversely, almost everything I've read from people who've been there in person has been that the protests are peaceful, with a party atmosphere.
Rex Murphy (well known political commentator) talked about it here: https://nationalpost.com/opinion/rex-murphy-in-ottawa-the-sk...
Having bailed out the media, the media are very friendly to the government's portrayal of things. (Heres an article from the left and right on the consequences of media bailouts: https://www.canadaland.com/canadian-media-liberals-trudeau-g... and https://westernstandardonline.com/2020/10/how-trudeau-bought... )
I don't believe the opinions on the trucker convoy would be nearly the same if the media was reporting what was going on. It makes me look at past protests -- such as Occupy Wall Street -- differently.
With the mainstream media in line (or, in stronger terms, with the decimation of the fourth estate), there are still people using wrongthink -- people speaking on social media. Clearly, that has to be dealt with. Wrongthink must not be allowed!
We've already seen how the major social media platforms are disallowing freedom of thought and speech in the name of protecting people from misinformation. This is the same problem Joe Rogan is facing -- he interviewed some doctors who said early treatment of Covid makes a big difference, and, rather bearing down with real science which asks questions and looks at the data in different ways, people want to shut him up, denying him the right to his free speech.
I believe that the scientific process was one of the first casualties of the pandemic, and things are looking grim for free speech in Canada.
The government won't even tell us what the heard when the asked Canadians about this the last time it was in the works.
I for one don't trust the government (or YouTube) with power to deem that certain facts are not true, as there is every reason to believe what is deemed true might change with the winds of public opinion.
On the other hand, I'm amazed that 5% of the population voted for the People's Party of Canada -- a party which had no hope of winning. This absolutely split the vote on the right enough to make the CPC lose seats.
> Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said he has invoked the Emergencies Act as a “last resort” to bolster the police response to convoy demonstrators and to “bring the situation fully under control.”
I really feel like there were a number of "resorts" that could've been taken before this "last" one.
Engaging in dialogue with the truckers and not inflaming the situation by calling the truckers names are at the top of my list.
Engaging in dialogue with Canadians would be next on my list.
Using the powers granted to Ontario in their state of emergency would be on my list well before declaring a nation-wide emergency.
The point of allowing a person to do X is based on the safety of them doing X. If we are preventing X due to fear of covid, then it makes sense to prevent people from doing X if they have covid, regardless of their vaccination status, and allowing them to do it if they do not have covid, regardless of their vaccination status.
Some of the rules appear to be punitive towards people who have chosen not to be vaccinated, and not designed to curb the spread of the disease; that is why hypocrisy is being called out.
Why should only people who are fired be allowed to protest? Most of the truckers are vaccinated, but they are protesting for the right of those who aren't to be allowed to do their job.
OTOH, this poll https://abacusdata.ca/ottawa-survey-freedom-convoy/ suggests that about 22% of Canadians support the convoy and 67% don't.
> And we have some of the lowest death rates in the world. Should we just condemn the vulnerable people to death because freedom is more important?
Should we continue to allow children to die from suicide in favour of the mandates? (ex. https://naturalselections.substack.com/p/milas-story )
I think you'll find that most people understand there is a balance to be maintained; nobody wants to see kids die, either because of the virus, or because of the response to it.
> Can you give examples of these "ridiculous" covid measures?
You mentioned the chief one yourself -- people are threatened with losing their livelihood if they don't comply; the ability to work are travel are guaranteed in the charter of rights and freedoms (and the only surviving signatory of that document is suing the government). Many people have been coerced into receiving the vaccines who did not want them.
The measures are not proportionate with the severity of the disease. Everyone was willing to do two weeks to break the curve, but no one signed up for two years of it.
There's no question that China has been insane with their response to Covid.
> > bimbo prime minister that has no interest in civil discourse about what measures the federal government should be able to impose on people and is only interested in securing his own power
> Why should he negotiate with people whose demands include the removal of a democratically elected government (from a few months ago I might add)? You can't shut down cities and blockade roads just because the party representing your interests lost but I guess we haven't learned from Jan 6.
Mr. Trudeau is the prime minister of the entire country, not just the people who voted Liberal. It is his duty to consider what the people have to say. A competent politician would've address people's concerns before they resorted to civil disobedience. Mr. Trudeau says everything is on the table to solve this problem -- everything, that is, except listening to the electorate.
The truckers are not interested in politics. They're not all represented by one party. Indeed, they have the most support from the farthest right and farthest left parties (ie. PPC and Green parties), neither of which have any power.
How many people need to support a position for it to be worth hearing? Do we not make efforts to protect people with extreme minority positions?
> If the federal mandate (i.e. getting tested after the crossing border) is unconstitutional, the supreme court is down the road. But let's suppose this mandate is dropped, how can these unvaccinated truckers enter Canada when they need to be vaccinated to enter the US first?
There are a number of lawsuits in progress from months ago (ex. https://www.mounties4freedom.com). It is surprising how long they take to be heard. It is true that some of the mandates come from the provinces, and some from the USA. The prime minister can address the mandates he has control over and that would help significantly towards defusing the situation.
I see claimed that the Ontario Provincial Police say there are 100k to 130k trucks, but I can't see anything official to back that up -- nothing on their twitter feed or website. Maybe on the radio -- but not something I can easily check.
Here's someone on the ground who thinks there are 250k to 1 million people protesting in Ottawa right now. https://twitter.com/JuliusRuechel/status/1487570992356634625...
- a police riot control horse (named after Terry Fox, no less), being led across a street, will be hit with a truck
- the driver who hit the horse will flee (hit-n-run)
- the horse will be euthanized when the news cameras come
but the direct participants will be plants.----
There's also a message saying the prime minister paid a lot (I thought the number cited was "47 million dollars") to hire people to, well, be disturbers at the event.
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I can't tell if either of these are true. I'd like to say it is beyond the pale, but it just isn't obvious to me that it is.
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On the other hand, there's a video where the prime minister says,
"Now, you sometimes hear about Liberal bias in the media these days, how they're constantly letting off our government, letting our government off the hook for no good reason. Frankly I think that's insulting. It's clear they let us off the hook for a very good reason, because we paid them $600 million."
but, in looking it up, I see it was a joke taken out of context (see https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/trudeau-media-bribery-fake-v... ). It is so hard to tell what is what these days.
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With all that said, I am not at all impressed with the Canadian media right now. It is downright shameful the way they've been spinning this story.
I've been really impressed with how much data my province (Alberta) has made available, but now, I'm wondering.
They recently had "technical difficulties", and the numbers changed from showing that double-vaxxed people were the most at-risk for omicron, to showing that unvaxxed people are. https://twitter.com/AB_CovidFacts/status/1486112498977685506
Also disturbing is that, if you get vaccinated and have issues within the first 14 days, they count you as being unvaccinated in all the reports: https://metatron.substack.com/p/alberta-just-inadvertently-c...
It would be nice to have some idea going in for what the requirements are. - I have to admit, I don't understand why I can't preview the 3D experiences right on my computer. - Likewise, when I try the QR code on my iPhone 6 ... well, I'm hardly surprised to not see anything in 3D, but it wouldn't hurt to have a little more detail than "Scan this QR code on your iPhone or iPad."
I suppose I could mention that I've done some game development and a little bit of VR/AR, but have never heard of the USDZ file format before.
I suppose the biggest thing that got me interested was I got a book on making costumes from a Humble Bundle. Keeping me interested, though, was a desire to do something that was not on a screen during the pandemic.
I probably read through 15 books from the library in my spare time, honestly, over the course of several months. I asked me wife some questions, and read through the manual for her sewing machine -- and then watched enough YouTube videos and did things tediously slowly until I understood what I was supposed to do. I found books aimed at kids especially good for beginners, and re-read things as I understood better.
I borrowed some patterns from my aunt, and made pyjamas for my four year old. (I figured something small would waste less fabric). It took me five weeks, on and off, to get them made, and involved a lot of learning, but they turned out really nicely and my kid wore them every night for quite a while. Since then I made some Hallowe'en costumes. (Making pyjamas for everyone for Christmas would've been nice, but I haven't been able to make the time.)
Why this instead of something else?
- I didn't know how to do it
- I could do it at home
- We had the basic toolsFour times higher returns ... compared to what?
It's like an advertisement that says our product contains 30% less fat. 30% less than what? Than other leading brands? Than your previous formulation (and if so, how do we know you didn't artificially increase the amount of fat in said formulation, so it'd be easy to reduce)?
Great explanation of Merck disclaiming Ivermectin (see https://www.merck.com/news/merck-statement-on-ivermectin-use... ) despite the drug being safer than Tylenol when used by humans ( https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/the-great... )
Edit: They specifically called out "A concerning lack of safety data in the majority of studies" and spread FUD saying "Ivermectin should not be used during pregnancy since safety in pregnancy has not been established."
Admittedly, I seldom buy software from those stores myself -- or, indeed, at all. The things I'm interested in are often available as open source, or they are like $30 or $40 USD (or sometimes $200) and it is hard for me to justify the price (although, if I were single, I could do it on a whim).