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Public forum though. No one has seen a psychologist because a text box intervened about their “rotting [brain]”.
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Public forum though. No one has seen a psychologist because a text box intervened about their “rotting [brain]”.
For some definition of us.
There are exceptions though for things like droughts. But largely this goes beyond this obsession with looking over each other’s hedges (digitally or actually).
[1] Because the agricultural lobby would like to redirect the focus from them to random suburbanites (see California).
There’s been some interest in this locally due to energy regulation moving to a more punishing system for peak usage. Also high electricity prices. And the topic came up that people would be encouraged to do things that are considered unsafe like washing their clothes while they are sleeping.
Things like this need to be automated. (And be safe.) Manually following fancy gadgets won’t make much of a difference.
Meanwhile we’re (or were, don’t know the current status) selling hydropower to the rest of the Europe during the fall, emptying the reservoirs before the winter so that electricity prices become unreasonable (leading to strategies like washing your clothes while you sleep or just being content to freeze while indoors).
And I have never seen a good argument for the export/import (Europe) arrangement. But I guess we can try to sideline that whole conversation by nagging people to turn off the light in the bathroom when it’s not busy.
And of course there certainly are Hungarians that also write in Thai. So what about mixed Hungarian/Thai text? Should that be a multiple (interleaved) encoding text? I mean as an alternative to “149,813 ‘characters’” that “any one human is [not] likely to use [most of]”.
The point is that Unicode has to deal with how text has been used by various communities in order to be the text encoding standard to rule them all.
[1] Unlike in prose where bold and such is just for emphasis. And at worst you can use informal markup (similar to MarkDown) and convey the same thing.
In other news. How many Hungarians are ever going to be writing in Thai?
EDIT: Used the wrong quote here. Fixed.
> All those ‘characters’ enable deliberate misuse, where visual similarities are exploited to spoof people over identity or worse.
Communities like mathematicians are more to blame for that than Unicode.
Unless maybe you want a Latin script/Cyrilic/Greek etc. unification (for the relevant characters).
> We still do a great deal in life using text that can be searched rapidly and readily. Sometimes it pays to obfuscate that so that only humans reading it will understand what it says.
I guess that would work in the same way that rot13 encoding (like spoilers) does; not worth to decode since only a few specially interested people do it. But it’s not like it’s difficult if anyone puts some effort in. But yeah, such nerdisms can definitely be useful as long as they remain a subcultural thing (presumably always will be).
To be clear though: there are programs and tools beyond the git(1) tools themselves that help you with email workflows. Like b4 which is for the Linux workflow.
I hope that the Collapse (Tech) Subculture in general is more interested in improving compression algorithms than they are in making less legible content. (But if they think the legibility is fine then sure, do the latter.)
So what can you do with that? Doesn’t seem like you can do anything.
Outlook seems especially bad. [Here] is some HN hearsay about how even Microsoft had to run Linux machines in order to contribute to the Linux project.
- New rare earth metal reserves found in Utah
- How will this affect the notorious police-on-black brutality issue?
Do you think clandestine services pursue their goals by declaring war on countries?
But in some ways it isn’t. Like any fool (like me) can just get some Emacs configuration for free from others. There doesn’t seem to be that kind of sharing for all the fiddly little things you need to do with git-send-email and the rest. All I’ve heard so far is that, oh yeah I usually deal with this specific issue by running some Perl scripts that I wrote eight years ago and that I’ve been nurturing ever since. But it wouldn’t be very useful for you because it’s very, very idiosyncratic. Might not even work outside Debian and my Apt state...
There’s not really much need for a “forge” without collaboration. I wouldn’t pay the price of SourceHut just so that I can fetch and whatever between my machines. That’s like a pricey sneaker net.
You posted an article, I responded to it. Standard fare.
In the same way that a sudden interest in therapy for dogs would prove that dogs were suffering from a mental health crisis. Yeah, you want to sell produce at a premium so that somewhat well-off people can feel like they are making a difference? Sounds good to me, yup yup. I mean the vagaries and arbitrariness of upper/upper-middle class social signaling is a trope in itself.
Then there’s the crucial farmer link. Which is just some loose “farmers we’ve talked to, like X” (one step above “people are saying”) and a link to a human interest or whatever you call those uninteresting subject-driven The New Yorker articles.
I don’t know how people are in the USA (spoiler alert), but where I am from food is the everyday grocery product that people are most stingy about.[3] Lower prices are always good. So it seems bewildering that the consumer would send such signals to the Market—surely this would cause higher prices for the consumer? Not only that but here (like in America) there are farmer subsidies. Payed for by tax payers which are also consumers.
(And Americans care about food æstehetics that much? Well let’s look to the article again: “Psychologists argued that the lack of public interest in ugly food was connected to self-esteem.” What the fuck? Seriously?)
Not to mention inflation which makes such everyday products more expensive. Which everyone who cares about Economics on this site seems to be tearing their hair out over on a weekly basis.
The article talks about how these noble startups are enabling ugly produce to be sold to smoothie retailers or whatever. Or juice factories... like the Market is so catastrophically mismanaged that you need a hipster startup for that? To connect that an orange shaped like Steve Buscemi doesn’t taste bad as juice?
I am not being negative about the article by the way. Just the Movement. The article raises the question several times about whether this is really A Thing or if it is an astroturf, someone trying to make a buck on real climate change and environmental issues. Just look at penultimate paragraph.
> The ugly produce movement exemplifies the twenty-first century consumer’s reliance on social media to navigate lifestyle changes. Food waste isn’t a simple problem; it’s an example of the broken agricultural system’s inability to distribute resources in a way that benefits all consumers. If individuals really want to be part of the solution, they have to look beyond the glitzy marketing of ‘socially responsible’ firms and become more vigilant of companies that claim to have an answer for everything.
Would you look at that.
A somewhat funny part is where they describe how the customers of these things are higher-income because it is more expensive. So the Market is so screwed up that “ugly food” isn’t something that the poor buy out of practical necessity? It’s been relegated to social indulgences-buying upper-middle class uh, people?
All in all this damning evidence that you have presented here demonstrates to me that The Ugly Food Movement is a silly, boutique food practice that some I Want To Make a New Consumer Need marketing firm cooked up, some startups made A Thing, and that upper-middle class water cooler NPCs are probably now doing the good work of spreading the word about.
[1] Because if this was about consumer choice, according to these startups, what difference would a new kind of company make?
[2] “One innovative company called [Redacted], based in [Hipsterville, USA]”
[3] Just imagine if people were given the chance to buy almost-expired or some other such ugly food... and of course they are and people love it. Why the heck do you need a startup for that?
Evidence for this? Any at all? Because I can’t imagine someone getting caught in the act of frowning in disgust which then immediately causes a shop owner to toss out that and similar-looking produce in the hopes that no one else will be disgusted. And how you would cook up such a causal connection is beyond me.
What actually happens—and which just trivially follows from good old “economics”—is that perfectly good food is thrown out because you make more money by eliminating supply that can’t be sold. (Maybe also food regulations, I don’t know.)
So you’re not a Googler? Or a Xoogler? Maybe you identify as a Noogler (never-Googler)?