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No, LLMs have not exited for two decades. What a stupid comment. Millions of people are spending thousands of dollars because they're recieving tens of thousands of dollars of value from it.

Of course it's impossible to explain that to thickheaded dinosaurs on HN who think they're better than everyone and god's gift to IQ.

The bigotry is assuming this is a low expectation for a country that gained independence less than 60 years ago.

How triggered you are betrays your insecurity lmao.

None of this stuff even existed 3 years ago and you're asking like we're talking about self-driving cars.

What hubris. My god.

Yeah I was a jr developer for a year before I became a PM. That's the definition of being "somewhat non-technical" as I put it.

you've been a developer for some decades which is why your reality is threatened that your craft is increasingly becoming irrelevant so you had to snoop my profile to find some confirmation that your reality doesn't get shattered

this is nothing new of course. obnoxious neckbeard engineers who don't understand where the world is going have existed since the unix debates on irc. you'll find plenty of people who agree with you on mastodon lol.

lol "fortune" whatever you say. that's why you're desperately snooping my other comments including that lame "gotcha" to find some confirmation I'm lying?

it's ok, all craftsmen who got automated away once thought they were special. you're not the first you won't be the last. you will likely be unemployed soon though.

In my experience it's usually a few devs doing the most of that, and the rest are largely banging out features, debugging, refactoring. There's also just a lot more efficiency when you shrink the team.

If any of that is happening, society is already a fascist dystopian hellhole and my 23andme DNA is least of my problems

Nope. They were talented devs who all (well, most) landed in great companies after.

We just didn't need them anymore because LLMs and tools like cursor are insanely good.

Whatever helps you sleep at night, while the rest of the world zips past you.

They were good... probably a bit bloated. Without AI we could probably be 5 devs. With AI we can do it all in 1-2.

Guess what happens when you can suddenly build features ahead of schedule? You can make them bulletproof instead of cutting corners.

Our code is better and more robust than it's ever been. Our rate of user-reported bugs have dropped more than 50% since we started "vibe" coding 6-ish months ago.

You're willingly naive and blind if you think this isn't happening everywhere around you.

This is just silly. LLMs have

a) More knowledge than the most senior developers b) Can work at ridiculous throughput 24/7

Probably a bit of both.

Yes, I'm a developer. LLMs allow engineers to become product people themselves.

I work at a company relatively well-known in Startup-land and I've replaced a product team which had 9 devs 2 years ago with 2 devs with AI.

Devs are just coping so hard around LLMs its hard to watch. OTOH the few engineers who have embraced it are excelling.

Vibe Coding is a trigger word for devs who insist it's a pointless exercise because it doesn't do 100% of the job. Devs don't seem to realize that's not the point - the point is you can hire less devs if you're only worried about the remaining 20%.

Also this article is immensely distracting.

I don't believe that's true at all. LLMs, especially reasoning models, tend to be quite good at calling out gaps in their knowledge and understanding.

LLMs also don't have the ego, arrogance and biases of humans.

It's quite odd that people think of hallucinations as a dealbreaker for LLMs. Have they ever even met a human being?

Humble craftsmen have long been getting replaced by automation and technology. Devs are resisting the same way as everyone else did before them but it's futile.

It's just especially poignant/painful because developers are being hoisted by their own petard, so to speak.

Two parties, each controlled entirely by corporate interests ferrying out puppets for the populace to choose from

The American republic is failing in exactly the ways Plato and Socrates would've predicted it would.

Not at all. Monopolies don't imply an anti-rigid price curve. In fact, monopolies almost never have that.

A monopoly means a company has enough leverage to corner and disproportionately own the market. This is entirely possible (and usually the case) even with significant pricing pressure.

If you can do a $200/mo service for $10/mo, the closed source will reduce their prices to $15/mo and beat you

This is just a weird dichotomy you're introducing. Open source will introduce price pressure as any competition will - that doesn't mean you won't have a monopoly.

As did almost every large tech company today. Amazon lost money for decades.

Are we really still doing this nonsense? If Open AI wanted to become profitable they could do it inside of 12 months - growing companies don't care about profitability (nor should they)

The vast majority of people couldn't care less about open source

ChatGPT is literally generating billions in revenue. Cursor is the fastest growing company of all time.

This lame HN trope of LLMs having no business model needs to die.

It's been interesting seeing those with an entirely materialist understanding of the universe try to grapple with and deal with consciousness as LLMs have emerged.

To maintain that belief you have to either believe there is a physical source of consciousness, or that consciousness doesn't exist, neither of which most people can accept, yet LLMs are forcing people to confront.

"America is awesome for ambitious people" FTFY

Totally. And where do you work that's so much more succesful? lol

No, millions of people smarter and more succesful than you TELLING you it's useful is what makes it more useful. But when you're this arrogant it'll never register.

Like I said, this is nothing new. It's like the arrogant boobs who thought smartphones were just a fad. Or the famous HN commenter who said Dropbox was pointless.