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There are thousands of data centers around the world with machines capable of running these large models.

You don’t have the access or jurisdiction to turn them all off.

You think VR is a technology problem, and phones were the same way - they’re not. The iPhone was Jobs taking existing technology combined with vision to create an entirely new market.

VR is the same, you mentioned getting price down, Meta’s is $500. It’s not a tech problem, it’s a vision problem and Apple no longer has the vision needed to make a new industry like VR be successful.

90s Apple also coasted on the tailwinds of what Jobs accomplished in the 80s. Same with today. Jobs set things up in the 00s and now Apple is coasting again.

Jobs had products getting people out of their seats and applauding. New products, new industries. As opposed to now where Apple is following the herd and not leading it.

It feels aimless, and Vision Pro ironically is the best representation of Apple's complete lack of vision.

Apple's lack of vision and fear of innovation. Jobs is gone. We're back to 90s Apple. Dumb ideas become dumb products, and no one has the balls to say, No.

This. He would have never approved a foldable phone, the iPhone Air, or the Vision Pro. Apple is back to throwing shit at the wall like they were in the 90s. Directionless. Visionless.

2022 called and they want their stochastic parrot argument back. The latest cope is to call it marketing.

Ok, then where's the report? Don't they usually release a retrospective report after outages?

They have to be careful releasing Astra as they carelessly train the next even bigger model.

> no practical or realistic grounding

Huggingface incident means it does have realistic grounding.

> vast banks of interconnected GPUs

Countless data centers around the world. Maybe you can spot them, but you don't have access to them. Especially outside of US jurisdiction good luck.

You totally missed the point. When I asked:

> how you intend to enforce AI is only run in the magic sandbox

I didn't mean you, I meant everyone. How do you enforce everyone for example 'place [AI] on a system dedicated system' disconnected from the internet.

I don't think you can.

> we need to focus on the issues at hand first rather than hypotheticals

This attitude is what's got us here in the first place, and if we continue thinking like this when we're going to go right over the cliff. The hypothetical cliff that's coming, but we've never gone over a cliff before so we keep on driving.

What vacuum? do you really still think it can be contained? It already escaped on accident. What more do you need? If you're argument is well it escaped X, but it hasn't escaped Y yet then you should take the first escape as sign as to where it will escape next. Don't keep claiming something can't happen because it hasn't happened before. Unless there's some law of physics that prevents it then escape is possible.

Can you give me a single realistic idea of how?

I think some people are just immune to understanding the implications of super intelligence. Like a severe lack of imagination, they only believe something once they see it and afterward claim it was, ‘obvious all along’.

I don’t really want a disaster to happen to convince you that it is possible. Is there any other way?

You realize there are thousand upon thousands of servers around the world and you have no idea where the AI has copied itself to.

Prisoners don’t have much to offer if you help them escape. A malicious super AI on the other hand can probably find you millions of dollars worth of crypto in an afternoon.

Too bad you aren’t everybody, and it just takes one mistake by someone over confident like yourself for the AI escape. Every year it gets more powerful.

They’re nervous because they don’t see a more optimal species on the horizon, they see alignment/training accident turning us into paperclips.

Even foomer Bill Gates today is saying we should slow down - yea you guys should have listened years ago, but you guys laughed called us all doomers. Too late now.

Against an AI that can create it's own zero day attacks? We don't.

Actually they get normal wages now. H1B’s get hired because H1B’s are now in hiring, recruiting, HR, etc.. they stack the candidate pool with their own shamelessly. I’ve seen it first hand.

Imagine 200 years ago saying the same thing. As if you have any idea the limits/bounds of anything. Especially in the face of a super intelligence, it’s absurd.

Oh really? Please tell me how you intend to enforce AI is only run in the magic sandbox? Harsh HN comments?

Which proof is the perfect security proof? I’d love to read more about it.

Evolution doesn’t think, it just exploits what’s most advantageous at the time to continue. Your body has all sorts of unplanned, suboptimal design flaws due to evolution’s lack of foresight. Like the left recurrent laryngeal nerve.

There are limits, but those limits are unknown. Do you disagree?

Or go get a job at the AI robot factory and sneak this back door into the code. OTA update, instant robot army.

In the real world everyone is incompetent on some level, and it’s worked so far because we only needed to compete with other equally fallible and incompetent humans. Not anymore.

It’s happening on X as well, all the e/acc foomers are getting nervous.

METR report: https://metr.org/blog/2026-08-26-openai-hugging-face-inciden...

Which server? Where? Maybe it’s hacked its way into data centers across the world you have no jurisdiction or ability to unplug. What then?