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Version 13 is very awesome. We've been finishing our intellij plugin and are so close to having it be usable that it could be user ready in like 2 days which will be awesome because then I can spend more time using the new intellij. I'm also glad they fixed the git colors in the Darkula theme.

It looks pretty sweet. Microsoft has been very uniform in applying its flat design everywhere. I'm not always a fan of flat, but for the editor it works.

Very nice, we (Floobits YC S13) are also planning to integrate our web based editor with Visual Studio, with real time collaboration and the ability to connect to other types of native editors.

Our editor is based on the awesome ace editor and comes with unparalleled collaboration tools including webrtc video chat (and Google Hangout support), terminal sharing (flootty), automatic deployment tools (floomatic) and the ability to connect with your native editor with our editor plugins for Sublime Text, emacs and vim (intellij/webstorm/pycharm, etc in the works!). Git integration is also in the works.

Just a plug for our startup: Floobits. Helps you work remotely if you're an engineer. All of us work remotely at Floobits. :)

Thanks! Let me know if you run into any issues or have any feedback! #floobits on freenode irc or info@floobits.com We reply right away, unless we are asleep. :)

Nice. We also work remotely, but our product is a tool to help engineers work remotely (Floobits YC13). I started this job less than two weeks ago and I am finding myself to be more productive, and overall happier working from home. I have less time and energy and money spent on commuting and more time with family and work and I love both.

Heh. I guess that makes me a malware writer as I worked on the Ask Toolbar for Firefox when I worked at Ask.com.

Core OS is awesome. The problems it is solving (discussed previously on HN see links others have posted) are needed. This is the kind of idea that's really going to change deployment and managing distributed applications and services for the better. This is really important for where I work, because we want to be able to distribute our application to others, and I think we'll be able to do this with CoreOS. It is something we are still investigating seriously, because working with enterprise level companies we need some option that doesn't exist yet that works with our infrastructure. For many large companies, web based SAAS doesn't work with their security requirements.

And really, this time around there are a great batch of companies featuring some of the Cloudkickers/Rackers who worked on CK (polvi, ifup) and Floobits (ggreer, kansface) who I know are dedicated to meaningful technology. You can't expect MSM to get into the nitty gritty, but I found this article to do a good job to import the benefits one can derive from CoreOS in a way that is more accessible to non-engineers.

Quite a lot has been accomplished by just that, opening an editor and typing in code. It's what it all comes down to, and it's why startups can take the lunch from big corps who lose competency in opening an editor and typing in good code.

It probably made more sense to have 20% time when Google didn't have tens of thousands of engineers. When you have a few hundred really smart people all working in the same building back in the early 2000's in Mountain View, it was I imagine a different thing than it would be now.

Born in Germany, moved to USA at age 11. I miss Germany a great deal.

The wireframe icons, the blues in the mail, the red in the calendar. It looks interesting and terrible at the same time. I just don't like it. Maybe I don't because of the sparseness, starkness and of course the notorious gradients. Next to the iWork icons you can tell that the ios7 design update does make the old style look dated, but that doesn't mean it's appealing.

Very cool. We're using Asana and love it, but there's always room for innovation in task management. Also yclist.com is way behind all the S13 announcements, who is maintaining that list?

It's probably going to be more than a year before Rust is ready for productive software at the current rate and given the breadth of what's missing. There is a lot of passionate activity so it will probably make it, hopefully maybe more in 3-5 years time.

It's not so much the rate of change, but maybe just how much stuff is missing that has to be supplemented by bringing in C libraries, which is totally OK. Rust is going to take a long time to mature, much longer than Go for example, because the project is maybe more ambitious and doesn't have a Rob Pike or a Brad Fitzgerald supporting it and a giant Google behind it. The risk is that it could flounder without critical support, but Mozilla seems to be committed to it. I hope it does well.

"Secret jail time"? Do your loved ones get to know where you are? Why is that a thing?

One problem for a vim user like me is emac's terrible first use experience. The delete key doesn't delete, it opens up help [1] and quitting is very difficult [2]. Also what people don't know at first start is which key is their meta key. A key that is super important in emacs. That it gets this first basic experience so terribly terribly wrong turns a lot of people off within a few critical settings of having run the thing.

[1] http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/DEL...

[2] http://www.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca/~cs219/CourseNotes/Unix/emacs-sta...

Reddit style humor is discouraged on hacker news. Comments that aren't thoughtful are also discouraged. I even think meta comments like this are discouraged.

Kind of sucks for those customers though, who can't get their email out. I get it, but man I'm glad I didn't use lavabit. The lavabit founder is probably going to have to deal with some serious civil legal problems, and maybe even criminal ones too.

I don't know where I stand on this. I feel like the NSA can't respond because they're trapped by the same secrecy that they operate in from speaking out, although the lies and backtracking don't help, so this echo chamber is just amplifying itself to the point people are making big bold moves that hurt themselves (and their customers) when anyone has yet to demonstrate a single instance of where the NSA has misused their information (if you don't assume the DEA parallel reconstruction is using NSA data, which is maybe speculative or not).

Well at least Obama is meeting with Tim Cook about this, because that makes sense. I've been thinking, why doesn't Tim Cook go talk to the president about this. Because...yeah.

I was able to open app.io and run the demo inside the demo on app.io when it asked me to tweet (which got to me to Safari). It actually ran really nicely.

That's awesome!

I tried to give Rust a try to build some stuff but my project required HTTP and there's no easy SSL solution in place right now. Hope it comes along. I don't have time to contribute much otherwise I would.

Mundane is hard, and working at a startup can require mundane work. Lots of it. Automate whatever you can whenever you have time.

Even for employees, startups are hard and take commitment. It's not for everyone, in fact it's probably not for most. People seem to have this idea of lavish Zynga style life styles. It's not. It's really really hard work. You still have to do as you're told. Everything is always going wrong. You still have to be responsible for your productivity. In fact you have to do a lot more. You cannot just hide.

As startups are not anywhere near a guaranteed job, downturns are really hard on morale, but you have to stick through it. Why do you have to? Because commitment. If you aren't ready for that kind of commitment, then early stage start ups are not for you probably.

As an employee you will more than likely not end up making as much as you would elsewhere in the long run. What do you get out of it then? Depends. I think it's worth it because I learn a lot and because my contributions really make a difference. Even if I don't have input in the broader direction (actually a good thing), I know my value.

I want to agree, but there are times when you have to ask for timezones, like when you want to collect and present data in discrete time units like days. If a user wants to know how many app installs they have per 'day', you have to know what time the time the day they care about begins and ends before you start dumping data into those time delineated buckets. It's not always the timezone their browser uses. Especially not with agencies that are providing these services for clients that are somewhere else.

The OP link is mostly blog spam that references

http://www.itif.org/publications/how-much-will-prism-cost-us...

which says $22 to $35 BN qualified with an "if" statement.

> The United States has been the leader in providing cloud computing services not just domestically, but also abroad where it dominates every segment of the market. Recent revelations about the extent to which the NSA obtains electronic data from third-parties will likely have an immediate and lasting impact on the competitiveness of the U.S. cloud computing industry if foreign customers decide the risks of storing data with a U.S. company outweigh the benefits. Unless the White House or Congress acts soon, the U.S. cloud computing industry stands to lose $22 to $35 billion over the next three years.

Fix title. "lost" is not the equivalent of "stands to lose"

I see a problem with collecting information without probable cause or a warrant. Though I may not agree with drug laws, I do not see the problem with convicting individuals who are committing crimes regardless of how that information was collected unless the act of collecting the information affects the information (like confessions under duress). For example I am somewhat appalled at FBI deploying malware, but I hope they do not let child pornographers walk free because of the FBI's actions.

I am not sure it is illegal to obtain information through lying and deceit, as police do this all the time, especially if the information is not used in a trial. If there is enough "clean" evidence to go to trial, I am not sure there is any reason to doubt the validity of the arrest, trial or the conviction of the defendant.

The collection of data may be illegal, and that is worth investigating. The collection of information of data of innocent people, people with no probable cause they are committing crimes or without a warrant, is not OK.

I did contribute something, the point that drugs are not being planted on people. The parallel construction wouldn't work if the suspects were not actually committing crimes. Nobody wants to talk about it I guess however, too busy getting their fix on today's outrage porn.