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Taking a step back, I think it's interesting that the emotion in the comments is so strong. AI generally seems to be increasing stress, and we get stress-loaded responses when people see something they disagree with instead of the usual discourse.

My prediction: Will go awesome for a few months, and the cracks will start to show. Might even ask you to come back and fix something AI can't seem to get quite right.

A lot of my gig work comes from non-technical people who started down the path with vibe-coding and need bailed out. I foresee a future where I'm overseeing a larger portfolio of projects that just need me to keep things from going off the rails completely.

Opinion pieces on AI have been getting a ton of engagement and bring out a very emotional crowd. It feels very "Reddit" lately, and ironically I find /r/localllama to be better at engaging the technology itself than descending into political flamewars.

Hey sorry to hear that, layoffs really suck. Do you think it happened because of AI "taking your job" or was the org doing poorly regardless?

Yeah I probably know more photographers than ever. Maybe an apt comparison given the wild amount of AI and processing that goes into the average iPhone photo as well.

It's amazing how unconscious people are of how much they have to lose.

Please consider taking this style of discourse over to Reddit.

Yeah some people come off as envious they didn't have Claude try it first.

But it needs a disclosure if Claude was used: "The cookie is what caught my eye" - if that was actually Claude's eye then yeah, Simon is claiming to have a keen eye that he in fact does not.

"Claude found a $90K RCE" would have been just as interesting if not more.

Yeah I suspect Karpathy is too generous. I’m finding a lot of devs with access to the best models are not effective with them.

So I think there is are growing gaps even within the described groups.

People are really slow to update their priors after bad experience with an early version

I wonder if someday we will get to the point where Github repos are just markdown files describing the project and then you just let your own agent implement it because why the hell would I trust your agent's implementation?

And even gaming has been largely "gamified" into microtransaction casinos rather than a place to hang with friends.

Can anyone find the text of what they all signed? Can't seem to find it.

Yeah I bet most of us remember GPT-4 a lot more fondly than we would if we were to return to it today.

Can you uhh elaborate on why?

I think it's really instructive that only closed-model companies are doing these kind of "my AI could kill the world" demonstrations. All while telling us how dangerous open models are.

Don't know why you're getting downvoted. We need better reporting on actual attacks vs. benign behavior.

I generally find younger people are better at valuing relationships over stuff

And it’s really opaque. Would be fine if it were an open source package but there’s a lot of mystery behind how it’s implemented.

Sounds like it would have been a terrible place to work even before LLMs. And I bet they aren’t actually shipping much.

Yeah I experimented with shopping and found it was really tedious jumping through the 2FA and other bot check hoops every third click. Agree it's a huge convenience if it would work though.

> I was barred from the US for life

I'm a little confused. Canadian police barred you from the US for life?

Also sounds like you did not take your lawyer's advice not to talk. Regardless, sorry you went through such a stressful ordeal over a false positive.

I think you are right. My most pleasant interactions with LLMs are usually when it gives the perfect short response. Sometimes a single word.

I have noticed that my interactions with AI tend to raise stress more than lower it. Even when it's doing useful things for me. Have wondered if this is fundamental to the interaction, or a sign of user error, or something else.

Exactly the point!

Even if what you said were true, we do not know that humans are the only case for consciousness.

Whataboutism. We have shared experiences which can relate consciousness to memory. "To like chocolate" is considerably less relevant.

> If an AI is conscious, it can outgrow and supersede its training.

We don't know that is required to be conscious.

> The idea, a consciousness needed to be tethered to a "body", is based on pretty shaky assumptions.

Didn't say so. I said:

> If AI is conscious, it is probably a very alien sort of consciousness that is not faithfully narrated by what the tokens say it is experiencing.

Even from that perspective it would be opening a whole new class of consciousness that doesn't exclude a lot, e.g. factories and powerplants. And certainly not conscious in the way people want to believe when sexting their favorite AI gf.

I am confused what people even think AI is experiencing. If it claims to be a bat and emits designated echolocation tokens, is it experiencing true bat-like sensations?

In humans, at least, we can tie language back to shared whole-body physiological responses. The tokens from an LLM do not represent anything of the sort.

If AI is conscious, it is probably a very alien sort of consciousness that is not faithfully narrated by what the tokens say it is experiencing. It can be trained to say it feels like a bat and insist upon it vigorously.