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This is something to be aware of. It can be guarded against, see https://www.tcl-lang.org/man/tcl/TkCmd/send.htm#M9 .

I recommend https://wiki.tcl-lang.org/page/LUCK as a very easy way to build self-contained executables which bundle Tcl, a large choice of extensions, and your own code.

There is a tutorial on the Tcl wiki which should be reasonably up-to-date - https://wiki.tcl-lang.org/page/Tcl+Tutorial+Lesson+0 .

jimtcl was originally created by the same Antirez who wrote the linked article.

No more so than any other dynamic language. Of course if you execute untrusted input you are asking for trouble. But Tcl has very well-defined rules for how and when substitutions and evaluations will be performed - https://www.tcl-lang.org/man/tcl/TclCmd/Tcl.htm#M4 - so the programmer has full control.

TIP 401 proposed a fix for this but has not progressed so far - https://core.tcl-lang.org/tips/doc/trunk/tip/401.md .

Leading-zero-means-octal-number is one of the things which got fixed in Tcl 9.0, see https://www.tcl-lang.org/software/tcltk/9.0.html#tclchanges - the subsection headed "Numbers".

Modern Tcl already has a lot more stuff in it than the early resource-constrained versions, though the basic principles are the same. Still, there's no harm in reinventing a better wheel :-)

Cut the App Crap! If it can't be done on the web it's probably not worth doing.

Only two or three of the people mentioned here are still active in the Tcl community, but others have come along and we still find plenty to argue about :-)

I'm not familiar with JWT at all, but I found a description of how to generate an ES256 JWT from the command line: https://techdocs.akamai.com/iot-token-access-control/docs/ge... .

I don't know if this would meet your needs, but from Tcl you could use `exec` to run these commands and read the result.

Take a look at http://www.ch-werner.de/LUCK.html . This site builds custom single-file Tcl executables for various architectures. It has a large selection of packages and you can choose which ones get included in the build. E.g if you select tclhttpd to be included in the build and name the output file tcluck, you can then start the web server by running: ./tcluck tcluck/tclhttpd3.5/bin/httpd.tcl

This is still using Tcl8.6 though, it will take time for all these packages to be updated to work with Tcl9.0. I am actually running tclhttpd with Tcl9.0 myself, after making a handful of tweaks for compatibility.

This reminds me of something I wrote in Tcl at my previous employer - a little utility that could decode an in-house data format and display it in an understandable way. Quite a few other people found it useful for debugging issues.

The original design decision was to behave like a shell, where ~ means your own home dir and ~fred means fred's home dir. With the benefit of experience, this is now seen to be unwise and a different decision has been made.

Sorry no, antirez (Salvatore Sanfilippo) was the original author, Steve Bennett took over maintenance later - https://jim.tcl.tk/index.html/doc/www/www/about/ .

Some people like Tcl and use it, some people don't. The Tcl Wiki sees a regular stream of updates - https://wiki.tcl-lang.org/recent . Personally I'm working on a Usenet/Web gateway which does web serving, NNTP, caching in Redis, user db in sqlite, all implemented in Tcl - https://cmacleod.me.uk/ng .

Hey, you missed out coroutines :-)

There is a redesign of the website in progress. In the meantime, take a look at https://wiki.tcl-lang.org/page/Showcase .

It's unfortunate that people who dont "get" Tcl feel forced to use it because they are in EDA.

I used to have the opposite problem. My employer would not allow me to write anything mission-critical in Tcl because they thought other people would not be able to maintain it. But now that I'm retired I can write as much Tcl as I like, which is quite a lot :-)

No, ~abc will be interpreted as the home directory of user abc in Tcl 8.*

In the long run, special cases like that often turn out to be more trouble than they are worth. If an ordinary file happened to start with '~' it would not be handled correctly. So you either accept or ignore that potential problem, or you have to write extra code to work around it. It's safer to not have such special cases at all.

The first major release in 27 years. 64-bit internal structures, so data can be huge. Full unicode with all the funky new emojis. Zip filesystems, etc., etc.

There's lots of new stuff, and some old cruft has been dumped, so some programs may need a few updates, but there's still a high level of compatibility. The page above links to release notes with details of what's in and what's out.

A while back I had some fun creating animated GIFs using GraphicsMagick via the Tcl binding - http://www.graphicsmagick.org/TclMagick/doc/ .

Here's an example that was topical back then: https://cmacleod.me.uk/tcl/magick/boris.gif .

How the **** do you decline cookies on this site??!!!

Tcl/Tk 9.0 is approaching release, so I think this could be a good opportunity to update the logo. My feeling is that the existing feather logo is obscure, and also too easily confused with the Apache project logo. However some people are very attached to it. So I'm trying to gather feedback on whether a rebrand would be helpful, or whether continuity is more valuable. If you have an opinion, please either vote in the poll I have created, linked above, or just leave feedback here.

Indeed, one point that's often missed about Tcl is that the ability to treat code as data makes it easy to use metaprogramming techniques that are awkward or impossible in most other languages.

Comp.lang.tcl is still alive. If you don't want the hassle of setting up an nntp client, you can use the web interface I operate at https://cmacleod.me.uk/ng/comp.lang.tcl .

There is also a fair amount of activity on the Tcl Wiki: https://wiki.tcl-lang.org .

These days Tcl has a small but enthusiastic following. This year's European Tcl conference just happened, see https://openacs.org/conf2024/info/ . The 9.0 release of Tcl and Tk is coming soon - https://www.tcl-lang.org/software/tcltk/9.0.html .

A while back I wrote a blog post about why I think Tcl is special - https://colin-macleod.blogspot.com/2020/10/why-im-tcl-ish.ht... .

I very much doubt that 50% of people even have jobs!

Redis is a very useful tool. You shouldn't blame the tool if people can't be bothered to use it properly!

Who is the "we" you refer to here?