dazilcher

So you wouldn't have an issue implementing Chinese regulations?

They can totally delete "their" data. It's not "their" data if someone else has it.

Make them.

edit: (prove that GDPR has teeth outside the EU)

> It says the opposite - if you are providing services to EU residents outside of the EU GDPR applies to you.

What the GDPR says is irrelevant in sovereign countries outside EU jurisdiction.

Or do you think NY hot dog cart vendors should also follow EU laws just because they happen to sell to EU citizens?

> So do you argue that businesses that do business over the internet should be subject to the laws where the business is legally based?

Well, duh, businesses are subject to local laws! That is not an argument, but a fact. Don't take my word, ask your friendly lawyer.

What is your alternative? That online businesses are subject to the union of all the laws of all the countries whose citizens can reach them?! That's ridiculous. Do EU businesses follow Iranian regulations?

For comedic effect?

Seriously though, I made no comment on the law itself so I'm not sure what your point is. Most reasonable people would agree it's a good law in spirit, and I wish I had some of those protections where I live.

But the notion that it can be enforced on non-EU entities is ludicrous.

Yeah, no, please stop this FUD.

You need to comply with the laws of the jurisdiction you operate in. If you don't operate in the EU (and having a presence on a global communication network does not qualify), EU laws are not applicable.

The onus is on concerned EU citizens to stick to .eu domains with a feel-good GDPR-VERIFIED banner if they are so inclined, not on the rest of the world to bend over.

As a non-EU business, I will pay my GDPR "fines" right after I'm done paying my Iran and North Korea issued fines. Cheers!

>> That's just scaremongering.

> No, it's a fact of life: if you ignore the law you will be fined.

Which law specifically, under the jurisdiction they operate in, are they ignoring?

>> They are either taking a huge risk or are correct in assuming that there's no enforcement mechanism, so they don't need to worry about it.

> I sincerely hope that they will swap positions after the first few fines have been dealt out.

The idea of EU laws being enforceable worldwide is mind-boggling. Do you, seriously, think this is a reasonable notion?

Isn't the person you f-ck up, effectively f-cking down? Or, more eloquently: without f-ck down, there is only f-ck sideways :)

Some at work, most in the extended circles (being an immigrant myself).

Questions for you:

1) can you reply without an account?

2) how did you skip your first post?

3) what makes a reply "hijacking"?

4) where is this "visibility" thing and how do I cash in?

5) do you always judge posts based on the author instead of content?

DV, as its name suggests, is an immigration program, not an employment program. I happen to believe it tends to filter applicants educated above the local population average, but that is not its primary purpose.

And that's a good thing - prioritizing immigration based on the hot job du jour seems quite dangerous and guaranteed to produce the opposite of "diverse".

I must call BS on your first point: it's not just false, but also quite naive to think that an immigration program would purposely target low-skilled individuals.

First, DV is supposed to use random selection (lottery) - so the resulting distribution should reflect the statistical makeup of the applicant pool.

Second, one of the DV requirements is a high school diploma - so the pool is biased towards higher education from the start.

Third, the rest of the process (documentation, online application, English/affidavit/liquidity requirements) again favors educated/affluent individuals.

So I posit that the opposite is true: DV is selecting from a highly-skilled applicant pool, and the benefitting immigrants are better educated than the average population.

Anecdotal evidence: all DV immigrants I know (including myself) hold at least a bachelor degree, and work in high-skill professional fields.