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>Don't these companies usually end up failing though?

Not always, it's of course in the VC's interest to push the company forward and secure further VC rounds. You could have a failed initial product but play the "product market fit" or Pivot game essentially until you run out of money or find something that sticks. You can easily raise money as an AI startup with lots of hype only to be shipping a half baked marketing platform a few years later and still raise more money from VCs.

Well I made a bad assumption, guess it wasn't clear from your post.

>Steven Miller doesn’t like immigrants.

Sure he does, just not Brown ones. Trump has come out and said they want immigrants from places like Norway. Of course your average Norwegian would have to be insane to move to the US.

Ironically, Daedtech is highly highly critical of the typical tech interview patterns you seem enamored by.

Of course you have the other side of the coin where those same ML students take a pre-trained VGG model, fine tune it on a couple thousand pictures of hotdogs or whatever and raise millions in VC money for their "AI" company.

>Again, a reasonable person might think the probability of those occurring is either (1) low enough to begin with or (2) not much decreased by the lockdown, that the negative effects of the lockdown outweigh it.

If you think your average anti-mask anti-lockdown American is making that kind of analysis then frankly I think you are disconnected from reality...

>Do you have any non-anecdotal discussion of (1) how common permanent disability from Covid is

Permanent disability is obviously impossible to prove at this point.

Perhaps the best microcosm we've had to learn from so far is the Diamond Princess cruise ship. The Japan Self-Defense Forces Central Hospital did an in depth study: "Of 104 cases, 76 (73%) were asymptomatic, 41 (54%) of which had lung opacities on CT. Other 28 (27%) cases were symptomatic, 22 (79%) of which had abnormal CT findings."

54% of asymptomatic cases had lung opacities, and 83% of those were ground glass opacity. That usually indicates pretty nasty lung damage. Symptomatic cases as expected showed more and worse damage.

Here's an analysis, what is the expected economic cost of achieving herd immunity? If you expect 60% infection rate to provide herd immunity thats 196 million cases in the US. Play with the numbers, 1-5% mortality rates, 50% of asymptomatic and 80% of symptomatic cases had some degree of lung damage. We're talking 500K - 1M+ deaths and tens of millions of people with lung damage. Have you actually factored that into your "The stonks must go up so lets sacrifice grandma" argument?

This is also a pointless exercise because virtually every major developed country on the planet has basically beaten this thing with... wait for it... LOCKDOWNS and MASKS. Crazy right?

https://pubs.rsna.org/doi/10.1148/ryct.2020200110

>Everyone in the US knows that there are other undesirable outcomes besides death

You can't really believe that. Maybe a small fraction of the population seems to be aware of this. The rest parrot some version of: "95% of people survive, its just the flu!"

You ignored my question.

>Show me one field (that does rely on the person's ability not looks) where there are more women in the higher ranked positions and more men in the lower ranked positions.

Nursing

All you have done is make the case that the data was biased. A mathematical function is not racist.

You failed the test. The Gradient is not biased, the data is. This was of course LeCun's point... This is pure foolishness

It's virtually certain that Covid deaths are undercounted in the US. Excess deaths are nearly 30% higher than expected. Belgium has used extremely strict counting for deaths, their per capita death numbers are likely the most accurate in the world and are ~2 times higher than the US' numbers.

Your comment is either intentionally dishonest or ill informed. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullar...

Why is there this laser focus on Fatality rate as a talking point for anti-mask anti-lockdown types? Is death the only undesirable outcome? Polio had historic mortality rates around 5% in children, would you want your children to catch polio? Would you push for herd immunity for polio and have >60% of the children in the country catch it? It's simply absurd! There are other health risks besides death to consider. How does no one see that?

Half of the US seems to think this is just a GLOBAL conspiracy to hurt Donald Trump, like are you dense? You think the entire world would torpedo their economies just for the chance to hurt Trump? These people need help.

I am consistently disappointed by the lack of critical thinking in HN comments.

The real argument they were making against Lecun is whether a mathematical function can be biased. Care to explain how a gradient is racist?

~80% of the Nurses in the US are Female, this is no doubt due to discrimination and anti-male bias according to your worldview, correct? 87% of Garbage men in the US are Men, are you fighting for better female representation in the Garbage trade?

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/hr/gender-ratio-of-nur...

By that logic it's impossible for him to lose anything tangible so OP's comment is pointless.

>For Zuckerberg it needs to financially hurt, in order to cause ethical decisions.

Hasn't he lost ~$6B in net worth because of this?

Isn't this just a misunderstanding of what we mean by intuitive? It's possible to have an intuitive understanding of a thing that's not "intuitive" to humans.

You literally can't understand something if you are confused by it. Your question makes no sense.

>If hate speech was look at with the same level of disgust as child porn, would the above statement still hold true?

Of course this is a slippery slope where you rely on Facebook defining what hate speech is. It may seem fine to you now but there's no reason to think Facebook won't in the future start defining things you typically like to say as hate speech.

True generally in Physics as well. What's the point of "understanding" Quantum Mechanics intuitively when you can do computations blindly without it!

>It would be nice if people cared about things beyond $$$ and worked on art for the sake of art

True but you generally can't buy groceries or pay your landlord with art.

I think you missed my point, obviously you should get paid for your monthly listens but it's not Spotify's responsibility to drive listeners to your music. You are obviously free to market and promote as much as you can, hitching your success or failure to Spotify including you in Discover seems like a sure way to fail to make a living.

Imagine saying this about a CD store a few decades ago. It would be ridiculous to say that a store was responsible for promoting indie artist CDs. If you want to get listens or sales make good music, it's pretty simple.

It's not Spotify's responsibility to make sure indie artists are getting paid.

>What is selfish is to ignore other factors that play an even more significant role than coronavirus, which has an extremely low mortality rate

You are just flat wrong, dangerously so. The actual numbers show that Covid-19 is 10s to 100s of times more deadly than the flu. You are just wildly uninformed and your confidence in your ignorance is astonishing.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

>because of a virus that is statistically quite similar yet slightly worse than the seasonal FLU

I'm sorry but you must be a troll. The numbers couldn't be more obvious, last year there were 39M - 56M flu cases in the US with 24K-62K deaths. We are at 2.3M confirmed Covid-19 cases and 120K deaths in roughly 3-4 Months. So a fraction of the cases and already 2-6 TIMES as many deaths and we aren't near finished. How do you see those numbers and say this is basically the flu?? Next I suppose you'll say states are falsifying their numbers to hurt Trump? Truly deluded.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-e...

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/case...

>But when the economy, rights, and other major factors are considered, it looks less like a tradeoff and more like a betrayal.

This is just crazy. Every other major country in the world has essentially beaten the virus with mask wearing and lockdowns and the US is about to have another devastating wave of cases in almost every major city outside the Notheast because people like you that are astonishingly selfish and arrogant have flouted the process and actively oppose it. You're cutting off your head to spite your face.

The economic considerations are secondary, we are probably looking at 500K deaths by 2021. That's World War level of deaths and your complaining about lockdowns and masks? Wtf is wrong with you, seriously. Learn empathy. People are dying.

>Ask any microbiologist.

So you've gone from "not all experts agree" to "all microbiologists agree". This is very poor form.

The profitability claim doesn't have a lot of merit for me. Uber is already priced at a level that many people don't accept, to become profitable they will likely have to charge prices that would drive massive sections of their userbase away. The assumption that somehow that they will be able to charge much more and lose no users makes no sense to me.

>Not even all medical experts agree on the best course of action regarding herd immunity...

This is a dubious claim at best. That being said the real problem is that Musk made the decision about how much risk is acceptable for his employees without their input and seems to be retaliating against those who disagreed.

Also consider that Uber is unprofitable, has no real path to profitability, pays its drivers poorly and overcharges users. How is that healthy? It seemingly has failed in every possible way as a business yet people continuously prop it up as something to be envied or respected.