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Don’t worry, rickwagoner will find a way not to believe this source. Maybe because it uses https instead of http.

Llm rewrite or llm boosted dev aside, I’m still on the fence about rust too. My main issue is deployment as I hop different os’s casually and makes rust a non-starter.

I wouldn’t imagine recreating Apache poi would be a terrible reach for a human let alone a llm.

Anything beyond basic utilities though I have a slightly harder time seeing.

I read through their earlier announcement, i don’t think it’ll be trivially by-passable without distorting the original message.

I would agree it may not help spam-bot usage, however at this case seemingly the only user detection is likely an id/badge check, which is not good.

Even then, I would not trust an AI lab as Microsoft does have a long history of support for word whereas I’m not sure the level of continued support from AI labs. *support including bug fixes, vulnerabilities, continued user testing, interop with other services, standards, etc

Right now even OpenAI has its own copy of Overleaf (for latex). I’m not in the same circles as it’s intended users, though I haven’t heard any major use of it since the splash.

I’m not sure about you but I would not want to adopt and ship an overnight “word” written in rust

I think you said it best before, Linux is made for tinkerers.

Why are you expecting a Mac system to operate like Linux? As much as I like Mac I know it will never be used for games, so I use something else.

Especially when there are three different versions, and each has a different team, and they all can work together at the same time. Crazy amount of tech supporting it that breaks a humans context let alone a models context.

I would agree a full rewrite of word which is very complex and take quite a bit of time.

It would be impressive of AI to make a 80% rewrite, though I fully doubt it would cover the 100% rewrite (disregarding long term support as well).

Why do you think it’s impossible for humans to rewrite word, especially even humans made it in the first place?

Ah good point, I thought this was coming across from the "recreate" your own approach. I would fully agree with you on using native frameworks, though the eletron desktop is a great "entry" onto desktops ensuring companies only have to update 1 source, as opposed to natives everywhere.

Can you expand upon this?

On top of everyone else’s great points, if you make your own “fork” of something, then you have to consistently maintain it. Which can be done with tokens, but an extra cost with something that’s not as user tested.

Well the author “cannot simply dye my hair blue” so maybe they can’t confirm semantic equivalence or behavior? Poke aside (and unserious intro?) seems like a general and loose question of if the conversion can happen.

*be me over eager

You must've mis-read my statements. My position is there is a balancing act between training specialists vs hiring already pre-trained specialists depending on changing requirements. To the contrast of your conservative approach, I'm looking at the middle road or the in between options.

Training does work, and I agree most people don't study 1:1 what they end up doing. For cases where work is immediately required however and an Inde car needs to be driven next week (say the og driver got sick), a pre-trained Inde car driver would be better to be hired then not race and take months to train the replacement.

My "closed-mindset, anti-worker ideas" of wanting unions, the best people for a job, and wanting diversification of staff I suppose do go against your "halt everything and only train Americans" conservative position.

I suppose you have nothing new to offer to this conversation and will never hear me out with an open mind, so I bid you and this thread adieu.

(Gas && steel prices affect construction of llm data centers, regular data centers, fuel for travel to work, expansions of hardware, supply chain for ordering technology, and so on...)

Good thing people aren’t affected by beef, by eating it, getting diseased from it, or from sick from other people eating it. And nice choice picking 1/3 of the options.

This is not me refusing to train someone, but acknowledging there is a time sink cost for training that may not pay off in the need to make a project, or the person could up and leave which good for them.

Thank you for accelerating my argument to 1000 when I was just going the speed limit and seeing the warning signs for the problems up ahead.

So it is a weird time to be alive, though I must ask for clarification: why would you build something you yourself wouldn’t want to see in the world? Profit? Attention?

Not to be too critical, but this appears to go beyond just a satirical PoC.

Tell that to ever changing gas prices, steel prices, or beef prices.

*let alone anything tech wise

Good thing every single requirement is known in advance. It’d be a shame if things changed faster then a snail, limitations we’re fully understood, and the geopolitical situation doesn’t change by a tweet.

Edit: actually, what job do you have in mind that never changes? Honestly it sounds relaxing

“The national government functions as a labor union through its control of the border and regulating the conditions of employment.” Woah for some reason it sounds like you’re talking about a European country, not the US where the legal age to work changes every few hundred miles. 1

“People just overestimate how complicated their job is because it makes them feel important.” I do hate to say but I also really doubt this anecdote for majority of workers. Wasn’t there a ford factory that laid off workers in favor of llm (that were trained to replace them) only then to be rehired? 2

1. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/03/09/child-lab... 2. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jun/30/ai-backfi...

I would agree employers would likely want that, though since in the us it’s difficult for labor unions to ever be created let alone extra protections or the necessity of tips or us at-will hire/fire.

My point of your thread was disagreement with the immediate transfer of knowledge: “Most every job can be easily trained or cross trained.”

I disagree with most jobs can easily be trained or cross trained, there is more of a time sync between that.

So we’re in agreement? The time of investment for growth is the point of decision, and how long it takes to train specialists defines if it’s worth it.

I.e. how long would it take to train a regular driver to drive the inde 500 vs buying a racers contract

Commenter doesn’t seem to understand how much of a drift there is for specialty learning or different negative patterns specialists may have. A front end architect and a computer architect may have similar backgrounds, but a computer architect will take wildly longer to learn front end and likely have some practices to un-learn. Also I would say for certain areas, people are pre-trained for the exact job as the tools or tech between is the exact same. It’s not just commenters who want cheaper labor, capitalism wants cheaper labor.

So we’re in agreement? A mathematician can’t immediately be or replace a good physicist, it takes some certain time to transition.

I’d like to see the data on that, as I wouldn’t be necessarily surprised but would like to verify first.

Though I may disagree on some for that, as now it seems the you should either mery someone from the admin or buy a gold 1million$ card and your good.

Oh that is true, and I’m not putting down cross functional teams. I’m just putting down the idea that a specialist in one area can immediately be a specialist in another semi related area with no extra review time.

You know what training takes? Time

*you know what practice takes? Time

I see you trying to kick a field goal all the way from the school parking lot, good luck with that.

You are a great person. Thankfully you work at a non-profit and donate all of your money to charity, otherwise if you work for personal profit or company profit you may be a hypocrite.

They may make good physicists, but not great physicists. Similar to saying I know how to drive a car, now let me win the inde 500. Things take to for specialization, even with the advent of guessing and checking machines (llms).

Still haven’t seen any sources or links, I do want to read up on it but never find proper sources other then “llm:”.