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Hi, I'm Ben Metcalfe (aka @dotBen) - venture capitalist (Monochrome Capital, monochrome.vc), startup founder (WP Engine), former engineer (BBC, MySpace), former product manager (Uber, WP Engine).

Before I moved to the dark-side of VC, I built + ran Uber's Public Policy Product & Technology division, which was a crazy and eye-opening experience going from ~1000 worldwide to 6000+ people when I left.

I am also one of the two founders of WP Engine (http://wpengine.com) but have not worked there since 2014, views are just my own, etc.

A long time ago I helped build the BBC News Website as a software engineer, back when Objective C was a server-side language :). I went on to design and run the BBC's developer platform and later I was Director of Engineering for MySpace's Developer Platform - back when MySpace was a thing, I promise.

Personal site: http://benmetcalfe.com/

You can email me at: hn AT benmetcalfe DOT com

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dotBen··on DJI ban passes the House and moves on to the Senate
Great for pro-use but they don't have hobby level products to compete with the DJI Mavic and Mini
dotBen··on DJI ban passes the House and moves on to the Senate
I worry that this all removes the ability to have a sensible and legitimate conversation about DJI.

Elise Stefanik can go fuck herself for all the reasons listed elsewhere, lets get that on the table.

BUT we should be thoughtful, if not worried, about DJI. Here's a couple of reasons:

1) When the original Mavic Pro was released I showed mine to someone who had worked in US intelligence. His jaw dropped and said that based on other stuff he'd heard in his circles and now marrying it up with the product in his hands, it was clear IP that had been stolen from US DOD contractors and the government itself was in this device.

2) We know that the CCP has influence over all Chinese companies. I worked for Uber when we were operating in China and saw first hand the influence and access Chinese government had over operations and data. ANYONE who claims otherwise hasn't had first hand experience or is a shill (there's a lot of those around - there's more Chinese intelligence activity in Silicon Valley than in DC. I encountered that at Uber too.)

3) The amount of tracking that DJI can do and send home to China is concerning. Sensors, GPS and of course camera footage. When we worry about companies like Huawei intruding into our infrastructure, it's still at the data layer. DJI represents exposure into the kinetic layer which opens up all kinds of further vectors of concern.

4) These are being used for war, for now for the most part "on our side" (Ukraine) but DJI is already trying to disable some of that and is picking sides. Next time it might not be our side that wins the advantage.

5) You can't legislate "for the bad stuff" that could happen, which a few other commenters have suggested. The "bad stuff" would be happening on Chinese servers in China. It's out of jurisdiction. You buy a Chinese product like this, you're agreeing to the terms of engagement occurring outside of your friendly US/European jurisdictions. When this happens the only thing a country can do is ban the import, and here we are...

I have not bought the more recent versions of the DJI drones as I'm very conflicted on using DJI products based on what I know and what I can see up the road. I would love to pay 20-50% more for similar products from a US/Western company. I'm fine with them being manufactured in China but I want the company and the servers and the software operated in friendly countries (just like Apple).

(also, the voting on this comment is fascinating - lots of upvote and then suddenly a ton of downvotes. There's either lot of pro-Chinese brigading here or something else going on. If you disagree with my points please reply instead)

dotBen··on Show HN: I built an app that personalizes home workouts
It's a bit frustrating to go through all of the intake form and account creation only to discover that to view anything I need to pay $10.
dotBen··on Ask HN: How can we open-source a 7 year old SaaS codebase and build a community?
(co-founded a commercial startup based on an open source project, invest into a lot of open source/commercial businesses)

Open sourcing as a strategy works when there is a lot of developer interest and (usually) a developer is the beneficiary of the software (that doesn't mean the developer is the end user, but take WordPress, even if it's used by a lot of marketers for websites, it is developers who are the ones using it to produce those websites).

If your product is CRM/ERP, is there a lot of developer involvement in the provision of the software? And if not, what is the enabling factor for your beneficiaries to be able to take a FOSS package and begin to realize value? Don't confuse positive feedback of "this is cool" etc with positive feedback from buyers and beneficiaries.

FOSS B2B software communities work when there is value in not using the commercial version. Why would anyone who needs a CRM/ERP want to use a FOSS product when they would have budget to buy a commercial version and gain commercial support. I would assert that all users of CRM/ERP software have budget - unfortunately they just don't want to spend it on your product and so why would they then want to take the same product for free instead?

I think you need to have a clear reassessment of why your business is where it is (where it isn't) and what would change that. Not sure that open sourcing solves that. Good luck.

dotBen··on Ask HN: How can we open-source a 7 year old SaaS codebase and build a community?
nix has been around for 10+ years and only recently are normies like me becoming interested in it.

Er, there's people who worked on it at Bell Labs in the 70's who would like to have a word. It's taken 50 years for Unix to become an overnight success for you normies to become interested...

dotBen··on Google releases smart watch for kids
No, cars didn't have seat belts for a long time - generations of people drove without them. When they introduced them a lot of people complained. Now you would have to be an idiot to argue against seat belts.

"Kids" is a very broad term - I don't think tracking older teenagers is appropriate but tracking a toddler (prob too young for this) through to teens is perfectly reasonable. Many people track their partners, family, etc via Apple and Google sharing locations.

It's not that kids need less tech, it's that they need less screen time. Arguably this watch isn't screen time.

dotBen··on Psion 5mx Emulator
This was also MY start to programming. I won a Psion 3c when I was 12 or 13 and built shareware apps for it. I did my work experience at Psion's HQ in West London when I was 15, became a software engineer, director of engineering, startup founder, exited that startup, blah blah, venture capital investor today. All from programming on my Psion (and Acorn computers).
dotBen··on US says Russia likely launched anti-satellite weapon
Something like this will either electronically disable a satellite or physically destroy it.

The worry with physically destroying satellites is the amount of debris created could rapidly realize the Kessler Syndrome which in turn could prohibit humanity from launching into space.

It does depend how you physically destroy the satellite, but slamming something into the target satellite to destroy it is the easiest thing to do than latching on and deorbiting the target. A kinetic destruction approach is probably repeatable whereas deorbiting probably destroys the aggressor satellite as well.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessler_syndrome

dotBen··on Show HN: A web debugger an ex-Cloudflare team has been working on for 4 years
Looks like the Jam team have some great investors who will steer them correctly but the founders need to consider whether they can raise the amounts needed the same way Matthew and Michelle (founders of CloudFlare) could back in the day - which enabled the generous CF freemium model and turned the company into the $25bn company it is today.

From a funding perspective things are very different than when CF started.

dotBen··on Polestar eliminates the rear window in latest electric car
Yes America wouldn't have anywhere near the number of drivers that it does if Americans had to pass the British driving test.

Have you ever had to reverse around a corner, since you did the test?

dotBen··on Polestar eliminates the rear window in latest electric car
(Brit living in SF here) Given that this forum is slanted towards America, you have to appreciate that the quality of public transport in London is nothing like what we have here in the US other than New York City.

You're not wrong about London (I never owned a car when I lived there and that was a decade before Uber) but your worldview is skewed. If you look at American history from the last century, in cities like Los Angeles the car companies actually bought public transport railways and dismantled them in order to promote a car culture. And this is what we have.

dotBen··on Polestar eliminates the rear window in latest electric car
New York is really the only exception in the US to this - world class public transportation system both within downtown areas and out to the suburbs and beyond (Acella is what all of AmTrak should have been like).

Even here in San Francisco you need a car to get around efficiently (or use Uber which comes to a point where you might as well pay for a car), plus it's impossible to fully enjoy the natural beauty further afield without a car.

dotBen··on Raspberry Pi Connect
But the trouble is they are too expensive. Not sure I would buy a NUC but tons of gently used/new overstock thin-client machines from Lenovo (ThinkCenter) and Dell Optiplex that cost $75-200 depending on spec and give you as good or better bang for buck, more reliable, etc.

(I would however separate out unique applications with the RPI Zero given the form factor)

dotBen··on Start Your Own ISP
Neither in San Francisco.

In 2005 Google wanted to do a nice gesture and offer free wifi across SF. The Board of Supervisors literally asked Google how much they were intending to pay the city in order to offer free wifi... SMH.

It of course never happened.

dotBen··on AI is about to make the online child sex abuse problem much worse
With the very clear caveat that I'd like to see a world where no one is interested or inclined to abuse children or view CSAM in the first place...

I would like to think you are right. The problem is that we already have a comparable with heroin and methadone. And people still want to take the heroin and not the methadone.

(You can get into somewhat conspiracy theory that methadone is designed to either help someone off heroin quickly or otherwise kill the addict more quickly - either way solving the problem. An addicts of wised up to that and avoid it.)

dotBen··on Not your mother's mall (2003)
Note this is from 2003...

Internet is no longer just 5% of retail.

That $100m rebuild of the Tanforan mall is already being exited and will be converted to a biotech and life sciences hub.

The rest of the general impact to retail, I'm sure everyone is aware of.

dotBen··on I'm Peter Roberts, immigration attorney who does work for YC and startups. AMA
Even if this change occurred would he be able to accept independent income generated outside of the sponsor of his TN?

In this case, wouldn't his new management consultant TN be tied to his (now former) employer, so would such revenues from his side projects need to flow through the TN sponsoring company in order not to step outside of the terms of his TN?

Side question: what are the risks of a TN holder operating what looks like commercial side projects whether they generate revenue or not (eg publishing a mobile game or running a successful website unrelated to the TN they hold - is it still commercial activity, is it still seen as removing a job from the US labor pool, etc?)

dotBen··on Tick-killing pill shows promising results in human trial
A lot of us didn't grow up with ticks but have moved to places like the Bay Area where we do get them.

I think this serves as a good reminder that folks should be aware of common tick procedures like checking at the end of a walk if you have any and knowing how to remove them carefully (you don't just pull them, you have to get the mouthpiece out - tweezers are recommended).

I've already had a tick bite this year from a walk in Marin county which is quite early. Fortunately, I felt it bite me and was able to remove it quickly.

It's also worth noting you can get ticks tested for Lyme disease but it's about $40.

dotBen··on My Concerns about the TikTok Divestiture Bill as a Software Developer
It's impossible to debate TikTok while people still are not on the same page about the fundamentals which makes this an unusual company that's not comparable to other social networks:

1) TikTok is indirectly owned and therefore controlled by Chinese Communist party.

2) Given the footprint and influence that TikTok has in the US, the platform has the ability to editorially control what people see and therefore influence perceptions of things such as elections and other hot button issues.

3) The widespread installation of an app indirectly controlled by the CCP creates fundamental risk. Eg a number of popular TikTok influencers were actually members of the armed forces who were recording videos in their residences on military properties. Gps and potentially camera access provides information such as troop movements and troop readiness to a potential adversary. At a wider scale, there are similar risks with mass location information of members of the public.

The reality is that US companies are not leaned on by the US government for this kind of information about foreign users.

Until we acknowledge that this is not a normal situation, it seems moot to debate TikTok under normal trade custom and practice.

I've never used tiktok, I've never created an account and I've certainly never installed the app.

I was a senior product manager at Uber for a number of years where I witnessed both the encroachment of the Chinese government into our operations and also the significant responsibility of having a GPS enabled app installed on a vast majority of the populations phones while holding all sorts of sensitive demographic information such as the places you visit, your social graph via your contact address book, etc.

dotBen··on My Concerns about the TikTok Divestiture Bill as a Software Developer
Your argument is that an app which is indirectly owned and influenced by the Chinese Communist Party is a conduit for free speech and the US government banning it would be infringing in your free speech... is a strange hill to die on.
dotBen··on On the new Dutch intelligence and security law
Aren't all governments tapping connectivity the occurs within their borders (whether it be in internet exchanges, sea cables that come onto their shores, etc - kinda doesn't matter where it physically happens)?

I assume this is going on routinely already.

dotBen··on Forum reactions to Satoshi's Bitcoin paper
No because whether he owns a bitcoin at $30 or at $30k a bitcoin is a bitcoin and at this point every wallet is indexed, tracked and any wallet with significant value (regardless of cost basis) is being mined for potential vulnerabilities.
dotBen··on NASA will retire the ISS soon
While the choice to pursue a commercialization partnership is inevitable, I do feel that the Venn diagram of "what do we need to research and pioneer in space" and "what is commercially exploitable" is not completely overlapping". In other words, I fear that the commercial industry may not want to pursue certain directions and strategies that are important to the US government.

I assume the smart bet here for the government is to spend opex just on the things that are important to them and assume that some of the overhead costs of running a space station are covered by whatever independent commercialization opportunities the private company can realize. Thereby lowering the cost to the government as it doesn't have to pay the total cost of ownership.

My worry is that important strategic aspects that have no commercial opportunity end up being completely borne by the US government (and therefore the taxpayer) with a profit margin included and what looks clever on paper to move from a capex to an opex model simply becomes a more expensive overall. With added risk that there will only be a handful of companies who can execute any of these strategies and they may not wish to pursue the government's mandate in preference for their own commercial program.

Sometimes renting isn't better than buying.

dotBen··on Wyze security incident update
Price. I don't need CPUs to do rendering on my NAS, and wouldn't pay the premium for it.

The margins on these devices are already pretty high because they're enterprise and business focused - I "buy once cry once"'d when I bought my <vendor>* drive for the home. I would have bought a different vendor if I was forced to pay an additional premium for a render capable CPU.

(* - I'm probably tin foil hating here, but realized from a security posture perspective I don't want to publicly state the vendors I use in my network.)

dotBen··on Bob Moore, who founded Bob's Red Mill, has died
I guess I could read you a statement from Mein Kampf if you want. Not necessarily MY opinion... and it certainly wouldn't be.

But my point is, why would I do that? In both of these examples I can only assume one writes out an opinion because it's close to the one they hold themselves. I don't go around advocating opinions I don't actually hold myself.

dotBen··on Bob Moore, who founded Bob's Red Mill, has died
"to maximize shareholder value"

You know, philosophically speaking, not every company has to do that. And before someone steps in and quotes 'fiduciary responsibility for shareholder returns', I'm a VC and I run a VC fund so I'm acutely aware.

Now, if you take venture funding then that's a different story. But there are countless businesses - from small mom+pop to larger ones like Bob's Red Mills - which are operating for higher purposes than just shareholder returns. See B Corps generally. And the world is better place for it. I tuck into a bowl of Bob's oatmeal every morning and I'll be fucked if I'm buying Great Mills or PepsiCo (Quaker Oats) big company shit.

"he committed the cardinal sin of making the employees owners instead of fully capturing the excess capital of his means of production and offshoring production entirely to focus on branding"

Many would say this was anything but a cardinal sin. Try reading fewer Ayn Rand books.

dotBen··on Kroger's Digital Struggle
Stores cost money to run. It costs money to move goods from regional warehouse to store.

At scale, on demand grocery delivery introduces significant efficiency which probably offsets whatever the reliance on impulse buys.

dotBen··on Alaska CEO: We found many loose bolts on our Max planes
Sure, but due to its nature the aircraft industry for commerical planes isn't really a free market.

Obviously, Boeing and Airbus represent a duopoly. When you factor in one of them is US-based and is relied upon to deliver on certain national security projects, defense etc no politician is going to let the commercial arm fail and risk the national security arm failing too.

Also there is a lag in the system around failure. The market could decide that Boeing planes are poorly constructed, but how many accidents and deaths would have to happen in order for customer (airlines) to decide to no longer put in orders. That's not really feasible.

"Too big to fail"

dotBen··on Ask HN: Share a product you loved using in 2023
They are.

I also really loved my Air 11". A lot of tech friends who were on call would carry them in large jacket pockets. I remember someone pulling one out at a restaurant in Valencia St in SF because pager duty went off.

MacBook 12 was a worthy upgrade on size to get the retina screen. Air 13" is just a laptop at this point.

dotBen··on Ask HN: Share a product you loved using in 2023
Honestly I miss my MacBook 12”. I still have it but it too long in the tooth and will soon be converted to a Chromebook or sold. It's just a lovely size for traveling.

I've never been able to convert over to iPad + keyboard for the same writing and hyper-productive working.

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