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Erlang is super cool! Not really my first choice when starting something new, but that's more because Erlang's strengths don't really match the kind of projects I'm interested in!

I'm probably too stupid for Haskell, too, but in my experience the Haskell community actually acknowledges that the language is hard!

The patronizing attitude of rust defenders here on HN, on the other hand, man... it just pushes me further away.

Yes, and sorry, that's not specifically related to ripgrep. About a year ago I tried to compile a few rust tools and a bunch of them just straight up didn't work at all because they made assumptions that are only valid for debian/ubuntu based distros.

I'm glad people are enjoying rust, and sure, memory safety is nice. Fun and comfort are even better, though, so I'll stick to C, Lua and Go for my personal projects.

The last one I tried was ripgrep, and something about the default behavior just drove me insane... I'll freely admit that it's all about aesthetics and there's no right answer, but that doesn't mean my preferences go away ;)

The semantics of Rust aren't simple at all. I've used a huge number of languages, both professionally and for personal projects, and Rust is the first one I'm too stupid to understand.

("Modern" JavaScript comes close, but that's not because of semantics, it's more because everything is incredibly overengineered...

It's taking off, sure, but every single piece of Rust software I've tried has been, uh, I'll be nice and say not to my taste. Almost like the safety guarantees Rust provides means that developers stop caring about portability, UNIX conventions or just... general... comfiness.

Agreed - makes perfect sense, too. In more than one sense, music is about patterns, and part of the draw is the tension between being able to predict what's going to happen and being wrong in the best possible way.

Purely electronic, cleanly gridded music has its charms, but adding those imperfections often helps a lot!

There's probably more variety in music today than ever before in human history.

I never claimed that this describes the interactions of most, or even many people. I never claimed that Jewish people should "be more passive and let it be". And "clueless joking" are your words, not mine.

I am not endorsing the behaviors of anyone involved, simply doing my best to answer a very specific question.

I agree, I was responding to chvid's specific questions about how you go from jokes to becoming a true believer. I don't think that's something that happens to every joker, troll or shitposter - not even the majority.

Exactly this.

And if you want someone to care about your feelings, the first step is never to tell them they are garbage.

Loving your enemy is a worthwhile strategy.

I was responding to a very specific by question by chvid and certainly don't think it's all about trolling.

(Oh, and as anyone who has seen a /pol/ meetup knows, they're not all young white men... alienated, though - yeah, I can see that...

You start out by making relatively innocent jokes about jews, and notice that certain portions of the anglosphere left and right really respond to this. Not only do they tell you that you can't say that, they also shower you with threats of violence. Successful troll is successful. So you go a bit further, start moving into actual anti-semitic jokes, conspiracies. Still just for the lulz, but it gets an even better reaction. Meanwhile, your image board/irc buddies, the only people in your life who treat you like a real human being, keep egging you, some of them pointing to the reactions you're getting as proof that there's some kind of underlying truth behind the jokes. "Yeah, sure, the protocols of the elders of zion isn't real, but look at the reactions you're getting for what amounts to lazy trolling! And from people with actual power - political power, media power, financial power..."

I think you can see where it goes from here - the road to hell isn't always paved with good intentions, but when turning around means accepting that the people who hate you are right, what are you going to do?