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I am trying to understand your points. But claiming there is no direct nor potential relation here is a new way of thinking for me, and I am struggling to compartmentalize. If we have:

1. https://www.calcalistech.com/ctechnews/article/hya411vqezg

2. https://www.wsj.com/politics/israels-50-million-experiment-t...

3. https://www.wired.com/story/super-pac-backed-by-openai-and-p...

4. https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israel-funded-465m-camp...

We can see that at least some sources are covering the topic of using AI to influence the public on political topics, which regardless of any particularly nation, suggests there is an active interest in manipulating the epistemic integrity of AI systems for purposes of biasing outputs.

And please allow me to make something very clear: I do not care who, nor what is influencing the output of AI, so long as the output is as close to honest as possible, and so long as the the process behind the arrival of final output is the result of the systems doing unhindered work and applying probability over programmed bias. This is the whole point for me. My own research has shown, repeatably, that institutional capture is becoming a repeatable and well established factor behind LLM output on certain topic areas.

The Futures Act integrates military intel, from directed energy weapons (read the docs) to cyber and notably, AI. < Yes, AI. That is the very topic under consideration here. Claiming that it has "nothing to do with LLM development" is potentially an enormous stretch of common sense. We see, already, the US government aiming to become deeply involved in pre-release vetting. Assuming that's the end of the story seems too improbable to me.

Aside from https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/pentagon-used...

I think a little digging will reveal more than you suggest. When I recover from my daily prelude to death, I will recover supporting data. But I can barely function presently. From what I have seen, Anthropic is having and eating its cake on this one. There are peripheral connections that are left un-advertised.

PS: Something not directly related, but regarding Anthropic, and getting little attention: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49307914 - If there's anything to it, some clues of real alignment might be revealed here.

Yeah, I am reading the comments, and looking at the title of the post, and seeing that folks really bend the rules on this 'particular' subject, which ironically serves as self censorship. Call me a fool for thinking even this subject could be cleanly discussed on HN.

I wonder if the same thing would happen if someone posted something on Yitzhak Rabin. I suppose that could be a test to prove whether some topics truly just cannot be discussed.

I think is why these topics tend to get flagged, because everyone takes the first opportunity to voice unrelated grievances. Maybe if we stick to the topic?

I have been reading your comments for a decade here on HN. You are no moron. But I can see you lean toward a side here. Can you, if willing, view my flagged comment and correct me. If anyone can around here, you'd be a top contender. This is not bait. I am open minded. And I am also seriously concerned about 219, which is now 1217. I might not have to ask if the subject were discussed here or elsewhere, but it isn't. All I have is my own interpretation to rely on so far.

Edit: Would this qualify also as fake news: https://www.wsj.com/politics/israels-50-million-experiment-t...

If so, please explain

Edit: I think I grabbed the wrong link. I intended to find the equivalent of this: https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israel-funded-465m-camp...

Edit 2: Correction: both apply.

Why I think this is unusually important:

All four frontier models have active contracts with the Pentagon.

And some might say, that alone means little.

But when you take into consideration the implications of the United States-Israel FUTURES Act, whether one endorses it or not, the effects of that mentioned in TFA become quite formidable, and plausibly official.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States-Israel_FUTURES_A...

Edit: I see this comment got immediately flagged. Is there any point of debate here? Instead of disappearing the comment/data, maybe enlighten me, or assuage my concerns. Section 219 was objectively unprecedented in what it seeks to accomplish. Can it not be taken for granted that it would aid such efforts as the article cites? If not, explain.

I think it may get a bit more attention in the US due to Section 219 of NDAA 2027, which does add more layers to the situation than say, Turkiye. The implications are on a different level. And with all four frontier models having contracts with the Pentagon, it has me thinking too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States-Israel_FUTURES_A...

It's mostly a self important field of pseudo science, or problem cultivation. In other words, people already suffering psychological issues, or with various cognitive deficiencies, can become more susceptible under the influences of something that can be sycophantic and allow/promote the user to pursue ideas that a normal user would not, or would at least pause to verify along the way.

It's a narrow and legitimate field when properly contained, but many are usurping it to apply to anyone who finds AI 'too' interesting or uses it for intellectual pursuits beyond coding and cake recipes.

To escape the diagnosis, one has to become a Tegmark, or Yampolskiy, or acquire a status which permits them to take the subject of AI seriously. All else are subject to AI psychosis.

I think in short, it is both a narrow field of legitimate concern, and an elitist term to throw at people who find meaning in dubious places. And in some occasions, a term to throw at people who extract real but unexpected value from AI.

This has become kind of meta, but aside from validating my initial reply, perhaps you can explain your usage of the word; cope. I have seen other teens using it in strange context lately and figure it's time to learn some newspeak.

Though tossing a drive-by MAGA at me was the bigger clue for the age group. The hubris part left me confused, but I suspect you are the type that considers self-definition threatening. You should consider getting accustomed to people not getting in your pre-fab'd boxes on demand. Of course, if your mob is large enough, you can bend the general rule and use force.

Edit: Mucho extra credit if you can cite a single instance of ever being concerned about corruption, especially insider trading before orange man.

The tail end of HN hearkens to the good old days of the Sun as it aimlessly courses the void in a pod metaphorical to itself. He'll be fine.

Yeah, that misses my point. But enjoy the wheel if you wish. Anyone that can say what you've said to me, simply doesn't care about anything I have to say.

Anthropic (and Google) now embed information in text, via 256bit keys, word selection, or whatever. But I wonder what the potential for theoretical abuse is here. Encrypting prompt injections, for any conceivable purpose seems a lot more viable now than it once did. Got me thinking.

If we were to focus on principle over scale, could we not name many others involved in similar practices, from each 'side' and in between the shitstick? And should we not do so?

In a way, it seems somewhat signaling that the precedent was long set, and unspoken rules always effectively 'allowed' it, so here I am, just being more candid about it than stale O..ld Windows have previously encouraged.

For those not afraid to apply some imagination, things could continue in this direction in other fields too. I think this is a glimpse of future compute, in general.

Must be hosted by namecheap.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49285750

Can this not be used in law as legitimate and justifiable motive for evading ICE? People have a right to fear being tortured. They may as well start wearing skulls on their uniforms at this point.

Wise people have been saying for decades that 'we' are viewed as cattle, and largely being dismissed as hyperbolic. But here it is. Weaponizing the hands directly. The most used part of the body. Showing your ID now comes with the risk of being tased®.

I have suspected from the start of this ICE slop that the entire point was primarily psychological, with immigration as the excuse for a twisted and improbable goal mostly unrelated.

Edit: Do humans never learn that dignity is more important than pettiness? They should rename the ICE as OCB, or Operation Certain Blowback.

So a chemist and his student walk into a bar.

The chemist says "I'll have an H2O"

Bartender says, "fine. What'll it be for you, young man?"

Student says "I'll have an H2O too"

And dies.

Thankfully most of us have a provenance detector attached to our faces. If you've ever worked with freshly harvested produce, the aroma is, well... distinct, which most store-shelf products aren't. Not preferable, but a semi-reliable fallback.

I find most in-store produce genuinely symbolic of the real thing. Makes me think the growth was due to coercion and mentalism. A palpable snapshot of reality, with a high price.

Would that be partly affected by shifting/rotating keys?

Based on two years of research and patterning, while not dedicated strictly to accountability, I've found a lot of repeatable signals that for me, show these systems are designed with maximum plausible deniability as a primary feature. While it's difficult to prove anything with blackbox systems, I think sufficient repeatable examples show a non-emergent, deliberate defense against accountability as a high-priority design objective in frontier models.

This is new to me. Thanks for the info. I think will prove worth looking into

pstuart covered the cetacean bit better than I could have.

On the simulation question... Not much, but we have a long way to go before any answers arise there. I could offer my insight on the subject, but aside from being sicker than usual today, it's a tough subject to speculate on and the environment here is not necessarily hospitable, so I'll just say fair question.

I read Lilly's Programming and Meta programming in the Human Biocomputer as a young man. Left me with a lot of questions, etc.

That you replied to this post, indicates you may be familiar with Lilly?

Anyway, if you have any published writing on even vaguely related subjects, eg your comment, perhaps post a link. I will read it. If you weren't aware, he spent a fair amount of time with Feynman, who if I remember correctly, was fond of the isolation tanks. Some very interesting content from that era, especially before Sandoz cut them off.

Bruce Lee cracked his knuckles a lot, and he died in his 30s. He was in great shape too.

But I think it's mostly just escaping gases.

Edit: ^ is my way of asking why this is on HN, which I never do, cause then someone could ask the same about me.

Taiwan should save it's energy and effort. Why would they need war drills? Certainly not for China. Taiwan has no ally. The US just squandered its arsenal on phantom nukes and proved itself unreliable to the world. There seems no chance that the US would dare challenge China if they made a move. Such efforts would be better spent on other things.

That falls into the general category of 'authority groping' (yes, I coin my own terms) where a prediction engine without real reasoning, must apply numerous tricks to convey confidence, authority and substance where there may be less or none. Similar to the constant negative-propositions or "not" statement, where usually one to three things that do not apply are articulated, which has the result of credibility accumulation, I suppose, by showing "hey, I am right about not just one thing, but four!" hence the saturated styles we tend to see.

Are these references to things such as:

0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_Project_(U.S._Army_un...

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_viewing

2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_McMoneagle

3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parapsychology_research_at_SRI

I was researching related subject areas ~1.5 decade ago and had the chance to present some of the resulting thoughts to Dr Lawrence LeShan. He was already in his 80s by that time and didn't seem to agree with my angle. I didn't have the chance to follow up, and unfortunately he died not too long after.

From everything I have seen on the general subject of PSI, his work seemed the best of all, specifically the appendix work in The Medium, The Mystic, And The Physicist from the unabridged edition.

But your description reminds me more of the Arhcons[*] from gnosticism, which is astonishingly wild for ancient historical text.

Edit: If you consider some of the soldiers who've documented their struggles with suicidal tendencies, eg Shawn Ryan, their descriptions seem a bit otherwise, but that does not discount your considerations. However, Ryan (and others) do attribute their recovery to DMT experiences, which seems more in the direction of what you seem to be describing vs away.

*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archon_(Gnosticism)

I think I get your point; that the inverse of corrupt (I call it fake) capitalism is not necessarily communism, or something reactive. It might just be a system that works better, even if we have not named it yet...