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Why did the mRNA technology remain unapproved for a long time since its inception?

What exactly was relaxed in the approval process that lead to its EUA?

Since the vaccine has been used population wide, will the missed studies or what ever due process eventually be done? Or will they be skipped, citing the real world usage (which was not controlled or followed up in a systematic manner)?

Also, these people suffered adverse events in trials, and I think everyone who is thankful for the vaccines should try to get some help to these people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mxqC9SiRh8

> there's been a ton of progress in the field of recycling for instance. Also in renewable power sources.

Obviously that is not the kind of progress we were talking about here in the context of transitioning to 5G here.

>hand-operated is fine...

May be it was.

You make a poor argument, because resources are limited, and "progress" will have to wait at some point. Human race can either opt into slower progress to match the available resources, or be selected out.

Indiscriminate growth is a hallmark of cancerous things. You can detect it, cut it out and attempt to survive, or surely die with it.

Oh, you are right. They did seem to claim it. But I am not sure how they can prove it in an online forum..

> This is not a thing that we see happening,

I asked a specific question about opposition not interested in "debunking" the "dubious" claims of those people organized by the senator. You seem to be talking about some "anti-covid train".

So may be it will help if you address my question.

> Have you looked?

https://www.wisn.com/article/sen-ron-johnson-holding-milwauk...

Does not mention or doubt the legitimacy of the victims of AEFI.

And the death of privacy!

> I said that they claimed first-hand knowledge.

I don't think they did.

>Will it? Are you sure?

Pretty sure. Why do you think the opposition won't take care of it?

>Are you sure that there isn't?

It would help if you ignore the politician in it. I am taking about the actual people in the first video, who claim to have suffered AEFIs.

How many people used to NOT have hypertension, and other cardiovascular issues, for want of exercises and other physical activities? Thanks to increase tech addiction in form of 24x7 chitchat using smartphones and video games..

So it technology take away some and then give back some (not without a huge cost, mind you), how can you evaluate its impact on human existence?

> Heartbreaking..

Civilized society is just an illusion. Imagine. How many people with power and authority must have known about Ian Manuel, and did nothing about it. What is civlilized about that?

And finally the action had to come from a non-government body, even after the POTUS banned the thing?

>So, the “breakthrough” was a brief suspension of questionable bureaucratic barriers. (Temporary suspension of “Dissipation” from the article.)

So as I doubted.

Naturally, the next question would be "What was the questionable bureaucratic barriers" that was temporary suspended. It really blows my mind that the answers to this is not widely known. It is kind of disturbing..

It is quite simple. To distractions.

Look at me. I could be doing something useful. Instead I am talking to people about inconsequent things in hackernews..

And man, a day just disappear, just like that...

>We just saw multiple vaccines get developed and deployed in record time

But can you show me the exact breakthrough that came by this pouring of resources into the research, and that enabled such vaccines, by removing blockers that blocked such vaccines for decades?

>Today it's almost 79. That's a nearly 50% increase.

What about the quality of life? We know that people are getting sicker at a younger age, and if we consider that in addition to the ever increasing cost of the treatments, it does not appear to be a net positive.

As an outside observer, replication crisis appear to more a result of other things like "publish or perish" and other politics in academics

"A man cannot want what he wants".

You cannot really pay a man to "focus" (I mean, work passionately) on something, which is what exactly is required in these kind of things.

And I think this might be blocking our progress right now. Because people cannot work on things they are passionate about, because they are told to focus on this other thing, some other idiot thought they better work on..

>Why will 5G be widely adopted?

I think we should reject 5G as a community.

Not because any danger of radiation. But I think people should be able to say "This is enough", and stop ourselves to be forced to think "We need moar!", thus put some block to this progress for the sake of progress..

>My idea is to have a huge fuel tax, but to return it to each citizen in equal amounts, not use it for general purposes, so that people who really need to burn a lot of fuel can, but those who don't are incentivized not to.

Interesting. Have you described it in detail somewhere?

It does not have to be. If the mainstream media set consensus, everything will have to fall in line.

So in HN, the readers will do the job of censoring info if they are very out of line with the mainstream narrative.

Look at this submission of mine.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27941820

It was flagged promptly and removed from view in a little while..

Although, I ll have to admit that this site holds up better than most similar places, and that is probably because it is not very well known...

But on the otherside, you can buy a high karma HN account on some sites, so everything is in place to poison this site as well. I think it's just a matter of getting upto some threshold of popularity..

>So just always be on the side that is in the majority and has all of the power

Until you find yourselves on the other side, by definition..

Timing of COVID was a life saver for Moderna. I appears..

> my first-hand knowledge

Why do it need to be first hand knowledge, if it is legitimate?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28022905

I see.

Look, for me it does not add up. I mean, what is their end game? If the whole thing gains public support and popularity, which we have to assume their intention is, the people in the video can be easily followed up and their claims validated (I am pretty sure the opposition would love to do it, which would be also quite easy). Which will ultimately backfire on themselves, which make it unlikely to be their (at least the senator's) endgame..

So what is it?

Also, why is there no fact check that "debunks" the whole thing?

Do you doubt the legitimacy of people in the first video?

>is at variance with reality.

Also, what does this mean? Please explain.

Wait. What is your point exactly? The people in the first video are paid actors...or something?

Also, a question to everyone who come across this.

Do you think the people in the first video, who took part in trials and suffered injuries, deserve medical/financial support from the government or the companies who did the trials?

>they did not claim a real life vaccine injury, they claimed "many people

Ok here you go..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mxqC9SiRh8

The community of people injured by the vaccine, mentioned in the video.

https://www.c19vaxreactions.com/

> 1 in 250,000 get blood clots after the vaccine.

Were does this number come from? If it is from VAERS, this number should be multiplied by 100, to offset the under reporting, (only 1% of the actual events are reported, but even that is speculation, and truth is, we have no real idea)

So 1 in 2500. And this is just one AEFI, blood clots.

Also, in addition to keeping VAERS powerless to capture high quality data, things like this

https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/defining-away-vaccin...

Does not inspire much confidence..

> allowed to frighten people.

No, no. They call it "awareness"..