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fsfloveron Will Linux phones become a viable alternative to the Android/iOS duopoly?

> Like what can google do with it?

Define standards beneficial to them like hardware attestation, passkeys. Like they do with Chrome and Manifest-v3.

> do a hard fork

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50061384

fsfloveron Will Linux phones become a viable alternative to the Android/iOS duopoly?

Another walled garden is not a viable alternative to the duopoly. Especially from a totalitarian government.

fsfloveron Will Linux phones become a viable alternative to the Android/iOS duopoly?

Or we could call it libcamera, https://puri.sm/posts/cameras-its-complicated/

fsfloveron Will Linux phones become a viable alternative to the Android/iOS duopoly?

Maintaining a fork of AOSP is hardly viable for the FLOSS community. We already have Linux; adjusting it to phones is much easier.

fsfloveron Will Linux phones become a viable alternative to the Android/iOS duopoly?

Mentioned in the beginning of TFA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Librem_5

fsfloveron GrapheneOS has fixed the Android 17 QPR1 kernel performance regression

What I did was using hyperbole or loose speech. I definitely proved that this happens a lot, especially recently -- which is bad enough.

Your reply shows very well that you don't try to argue in a good faith but search for reasons to disregard my arguments.

fsfloveron Will Linux phones become a viable alternative to the Android/iOS duopoly?

> The fact that this is still possible on desktops (though not everywhere anymore, e.g. my bank requires you to use a phone app for authentication) is for historical reasons.

And you think that this is fine? I will fight for my rights for one.

fsfloveron Will Linux phones become a viable alternative to the Android/iOS duopoly?

These are basically the same problems that Linux desktop had around 2000, aren't they? People still used it and it was fine.

fsfloveron Will Linux phones become a viable alternative to the Android/iOS duopoly?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waydroid

fsfloveron Will Linux phones become a viable alternative to the Android/iOS duopoly?

> I absolutely love my laptop running mint, its running better than it ever did with windows, but I could never recommend something even this 'simple' to someone who isn't a hobbyist, or has a lot of spare time to configure and maintain it, or cares about their privacy, etc.

My non-technical relatives run Debian just fine. I don't understand what you are talking about. It has unattendend upgrades and doesn't have to be configured or tinkered with after install.

fsfloveron Will Linux phones become a viable alternative to the Android/iOS duopoly?

Which phones did you try? My Librem 5 has no problems with calls and texts.

fsfloveron Will Linux phones become a viable alternative to the Android/iOS duopoly?

Librem 5 has a smart card reader.

fsfloveron Will Linux phones become a viable alternative to the Android/iOS duopoly?

> and take care you don't give it access to something identifiable.

Like IP address and location?

fsfloveron Fingerprints are the new cookies

Or ban all advertising, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43595269

fsfloveron Fingerprints are the new cookies

Lack of privacy harms journalism and activism, making the government too powerful and not accountable. If only activists and journalists will try to have the privacy, it will be much easier to target them. Everyone should have privacy to protect them. It’s sort of like freedom of speech is necessary not just for journalists, but for everyone, even if you have nothing to say.

fsfloveron Will Linux phones become a viable alternative to the Android/iOS duopoly?

By such measure, GNU/Linux phones are already quite good. I use Librem 5 with Phosh as a daily driver, and it is really just fine. Except the battery life, app compatibility and smoothness of the UI.

fsfloveron Telegram Desktop vulnerability allowed any user's file to be stolen

How many FreeBSD's jail escapes did we have in the last 20 years? Same question about VMs there.

> but I would argue that it's very inefficient to boot up a VM for each application instance

https://doc.qubes-os.org/en/latest/introduction/faq.html#doe...

> A container/jail is virtually the same as a VM

No, it's not, https://hn.algolia.com/?q=container+escape

Also Qubes doesn't just use VMs but enforces virtualization with hardware (VT-d).

fsfloveron Telegram Desktop vulnerability allowed any user's file to be stolen

Which other OS provides a better security?

fsfloveron Passkeys are a trap

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49753211

I don't like passkeys (hawksley.dev)

853 points by ethanhawksley 23 days ago | 832 comments

fsfloveron Will Linux phones become a viable alternative to the Android/iOS duopoly?

How many years did it take to make a well-polished DE on desktop Linux? How large was the community doing that and how many devices did they have access to?

fsfloveron Will Linux phones become a viable alternative to the Android/iOS duopoly?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Librem_5, my daily driver.

fsfloveron Telegram Desktop vulnerability allowed any user's file to be stolen

Matrix also has that.

fsfloveron Telegram Desktop vulnerability allowed any user's file to be stolen

Yes, this is exactly how Qubes OS works.

fsfloveron Unikernels were hard. key word: were

> The operating system itself is literally the problem as it's inherently meant to run many different programs whereas unikernels only run one.

Unless you rely on security through compartmentalization. See: https://qubes-os.org

fsfloveron Telegram Desktop vulnerability allowed any user's file to be stolen

There were only two VM escapes from Qubes OS in the last 20 years [0]. How is this not sufficiently secure?

[0] https://forum.qubes-os.org/t/qsb-116-multiple-xen-issues-xsa...

fsfloveron GrapheneOS has fixed the Android 17 QPR1 kernel performance regression

>> I specifically mentioned that the GOS crowd comments on every single topic of other projects,

> Will all due respect, this is just raging BS requiring extraordinary evidence.

(I am not the only one who noticed this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49016525)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49564295

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49345327

(not root comment though) https://news.ycombinator.com/?itemid=49339169

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46679383

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46165740

fsfloveron Telegram Desktop vulnerability allowed any user's file to be stolen

I heard Telegram client from aur repository on Arch Linux supports secret chats.

fsfloveron Telegram Desktop vulnerability allowed any user's file to be stolen

> In the extreme case you could open a new, non-persistent browser session for every page you visit.

This is seamless on Qubes OS: You just click a link and a new empty VM with Firefox opens. You close the browser, and the VM is destroyed. Can't recommend it enough.

fsfloveron Ask HN: What do you run on a $5 VPS that's worth keeping online 24/7?

> - qBittorrent for "Linux ISOs"

This doesn't sound safe, since this is not anonymous and there are a lot of "Linux haters". Consider switching to and thus support torrents in I2P.