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I've argued this on HN plenty of times and I get drowned out by people telling me that they like bacon too much and that "well e-coli can spread on lettuce too so we might as well keep breeding hundreds of billions of animals per year and keeping them in filthy conditions in close proximity."

For a very scientific community, you absolutely hit a brick wall as soon as you tell a typically unhealthy group of people that eating meat is a massive public health hazard.

I mean, everyone is already isolated. You want to remove a few people showing their faces? It’s currently the only few minutes of face to face contact a lot of us have.

That's interesting, but not a solution. It's inefficient to raise an animal for years and feed it plants (and have to deal with feces and other output) for a few million calories of output.

If humans continue to raise and eat massive amounts of land animals, nothing will change. The emission won't change in the slightest. Maybe a blip from less cars on the road but overall, nothing big. As someone pointed out, planes are a fraction of the source of emissions, animal agriculture is far more devastating than anything else.

Through all of my bookmark purges and reorganizations throughout the years, this url has always remained a part of them. The first one, in fact, as it's lasted the longest!

Had a field day with this back in college.

It's an interesting thought. Mass displacement will be a huge issue though. While we do have plenty of landmass in theory, migration of major cities is just.. I cannot possibly fathom how that could ever be organized. We'd panic, loot grocery stores, rob pharmacies, etc. I mean look at what this pandemic has done. You can't even buy cans of beans or toilet paper! My local store is out of bags of dry rice. Of _rice_.

I don't recall where I heard it but before I knew it was a quote, I used to say this all the time: humanity is three square meals away from total annihilation. One day without food and humans will revert right back to our caveman "attack other human, take food" lizard brains.

I definitely went a little off topic from your original post but, "adapt to the changes" isn't honestly something I can fathom happening. I don't know where you live - be it a city or suburbs or otherwise - but think about 30 million people showing up and tell me that doesn't end in a massive disaster.

Agreed, and also I hope to be proven wrong. People don't want to change, by nature. Humans are terribly flawed. The last two people alive on earth will be pointing fingers at each other moments before they perish.

Um, yes. If you keep taking the same antibiotics (or feeding them in huge quantities to livestock) then yes, new strains of viruses that are antibiotic resistant will emerge. That's how viruses work and evolve.

Otherwise we'd have discovered a flu vaccine and then no one would have ever gotten the flu again. Yet here we are. The virus evolves and changes over time.

Not this specific outbreak, but it was from the meat trade (wild caught or farmed). We keep stressed out animals in disgusting conditions in close proximity which is a breeding ground for disease. We then interact with them.

And of course, wild animals (like bats) can transmit diseases to other species (like pigs). Who can then transmit it to all the other pigs around it.

Then we pump them full of medication so they don't get sick, and end up creating antibiotic resistance.

Alright Captain Literal, but my point still stands that generally speaking, bats do consume mosquitos, maybe that _not that specific type_ of bat, or _that specific type of mosquito_, but yes, bats consume mosquitos.

Christ talking to people on this site is like talking to the most literal supernerd of all time who just needs to always have a point. It's like reddit 2.0.

How's it ignorant? I'd love for you to elaborate on that. Keeping stressed animals in close proximity in filthy conditions and packing them full of antibiotics is not good for anyone (especially the animals). It's a disease breeding ground and all the antibiotics breed antibiotic resistance.

How's that ignorant again?

>This is not about cuisine.

How can you even remotely suggest this when the proximity between humans and lifestock animals in horrible conditions is a primary driver of a) transmission of disease, as well as b) increasing resistance to antibiotics due to how much of them we pump into the animals, and then consume ourselves?

It absolutely _is_ about cuisine choices and the sooner we stop eating animals and animal products, the better.

Funnily enough they're a primary food source for bats! Definitely necessary despite their annoyance.

This is the only actual solution. All of these diseases will continue because of our close proximity to animals, factory farming being the biggest offender.

We also breed super viruses by feeding the vast majority of our produced antibiotics to animals. Yeah, we need to stop eating animals and animal products as quickly as possible. There literally is no other way.

In a few years lab grown meat will be a solution to those who don't want to switch over to a plant-based diet, so there's that.

Honest question - what kind of capacity can possibly be supported during a pandemic when people already go to the doctor for (seemingly) trivial reasons?

I see the benefits here, don't get me wrong, but I can't imagine the waiting rooms when people go to the doctor with actual emergencies.

I have a feeling that many of the students aren't paying anywhere near that $50/year.

This is already happening: https://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-biz-n95-face-mask...

I have no idea what I just read but you might be on to something, or you have lost your mind, possibly both.

I'm a night owl who's started waking up earlier. I guess that makes me an early owl? Or a night riser, which makes me sound like a zombie.

I started waking up earlier because I realized I had a much better work day if I did something I enjoyed before working. I start work at 10am, but I wake up around 7:30, walk the dog for ~2 miles, then relax and play a game, lift, do some blogging, read Hackernews etc. It's made my work day far more productive, I will say that. I also have a little one on the way so starting to acclimate my body to waking up earlier is better done sooner rather than later.

I recall reading a while back an article that stated people had more productive and overall positive work days if they did something enjoyable before starting work. I work from home most of the time and so it became more important than ever for me to actually _use_ the time I wouldn't be spending commuting. I definitely recommend it to everyone, particularly those who don't have a commute to "wind up" and decompress from their work day!

How is that, in any remote capacity, the same thing?

One is being forced to give my money to someone else for reasons of "fairness", the other is a right to not be locked up for a reasonable amount of time after being accused of a crime.

One of those involves taking my freedom, the other, my money.

No kid yet but 2 more hours working currently would guarantee that I did absolutely nothing but work and do random household bullshit for the entire time I am awake, with zero time to decompress from work.

9 hours maybe, but 10 hours? I'm a software engineer, I can't produce quality work for 10 straight hours. Most good, solid work gets done in a 4-5 hour period. 10 hours in front of a computer isn't good for anyone.

See my update - I've decided that removing all the bathrooms would be more efficient due to how much time and money it would save. They'd be converted to closets that contain only speed and bananas.

> unprecedented transparency

I think where they can go a step further here is to install Spy cams in all of the bathroom toilets so we know how much bathroom time is actually spent going to the bathroom, and how much is spent on cell phones. It may sound invasive but I'll bet the efficiency will go up and that's all that matters at the end of the day, right?

Since efficiency can be broken down into money earned/lost, this should probably start up the top-most level (CEO) since the highest paid positions would yield the most gain/loss depending on efficiency changes. So once the CEOs have spy cams installed in all of their toilets, we can really measure how well efficiency improves!

EDIT:

I'm coming back to this because I don't think this is quite efficient enough. We should have a team of resident defecation experts who can detect exactly when the CEO should start the wiping processes, and gradually phase them out with AI that learns different pooping patterns. It can also give recommendations to the employee in terms of eating more fiber to speed up the defecating process and result in more solid stools, thus optimizing all bathroom time and shortening the amount of wipes required to as little as possible, again, to save more time and thus, money.

Not only that, but eating more fiber can prevent troubles like constipation as well as other health issues, saving even more money for the company when it comes to healthcare.

These are just a few more ideas, but I have plenty more.

EDIT #2:

I feel stupid for not thinking of this earlier, but another good strategy to prevent time away from the desk would be to simply remove all water and refrigerators from the building, and naturally all bathrooms would follow suit. The bathrooms would be replaced with closets filled with amphetamines, which are huge efficiency boosters, and bananas, so the employees don't die of hunger. The amphetamines will keep the heart rate so fast the bananas will be burned off like fuel.

Now, I know what you're thinking, "but what about the pumping rooms for breastfeeding moms? What happens to those?" It's a great question, with a simple solution - Barclays doesn't hire parents anymore. This is about efficiency, remember? Barclays will henceforth only hire asexual and sterile men and women to nullify any risk of pregnancy.

However, for those parents who need to keep their job, Barclays will also offer a free service called "reverse adoption" where you bring in your kids and the company gives them away. This can save dozens of dollars per day from employees getting distracted by things like "family" and "not working."

Between this, the spy cams in CEO toilets, the defecation expert AI, and removing the bathrooms, there will be tons of money saved, a portion of which will go towards financing the amphetamines and bananas. It'll be expensive for all the drugs but the efficiency will be so high it'll be a drop in the bucket!

It took some time, but I finally feel comfortable with Firefox. I stuck with Brave for a while but the weird blockchain bookmarks syncing worked like total shit, and I'd open a browser on my nth device and it'd reset my bookmarks to what they were three weeks ago. Total nightmare.

Firefox is working great currently.

I have one gripe and it's that the DevTools frame doesn't let you drag-resize on the _entire_ bar. That is, the tab bar (Inspector, Console, Network, Debugger, etc). On Chrome, you can click anywhere on the bar and drag it up. As a web developer, I'm constantly resizing the viewport, and sometimes it's nice to have a larger console, but I have roughly ~2px to work with every time, and it takes some trial and error a lot of the time.

Would be nice for a fix to that soon.

>I paid for an operating system, just let me use the damn thing in peace will you

It's always been about control. You can apply this to damn-near everything too. "I paid for an operating system, let me use it as I see fit" "I paid for an internet connection, let me use it how I want" "I paid for a laptop, let me upgrade the RAM" "I paid for a phone, let me install whatever apps I choose / let me replace the battery" etc etc.

It's everything infuriating about modern computing in a nutshell. Every company wants absolute control over everything you do. And if they can't have that, they want _data_ on everything you do.

>Us humans like to think that we are the ultimate organisms and everything else is either the material that composes us (cells and tissue) or our products (corporations, cities).

And yet if we perished from the planet, literally every single other species, animal mineral or vegetable, would benefit from our absence. Everything would grow back at an amazing rate and it would be like we were never here.

Meanwhile, if the bees disappear, we're all screwed.

Funny thing about those people is they constantly complain about how expensive everything is, yet they spend frivolous amounts of money on what's probably the highest marked up item: food. Meal prep for a week for ~$75 and you're set. It would cost probably 4 times that (at least, depending on where you eat) to eat out, not to mention you don't know how it was prepared, and it's probably wildly unhealthy compared to if you just cooked it at home.

Take 2-3 hours on Sundays and cook some food. It's not hard.

Lots of shade thrown towards people living in suburbia on here. Maybe not everyone wants to live in a (rented) closet sized apartment in a major city, complete with all the noise pollution, actual pollution, crime rates, and a lingering piss-smell 24/7, and all for the low price of _more than owning a house_?

They probably arranged them that way to match the Alphabet Song.

They've been terrible for years. I yearn for the days when you'd look up "x video game review" and you'd get actual human beings with personal sites showing up, and opinions from random people. Now that SEO has been beaten into a pulp, the first 8,000 pages are either major corporations or spam.

So the modern internet in general, I suppose. Corporations in spam. Never mind, it'd be unreasonable of me to expect anything else.