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Selection bias.

Sometimes when I post, I’m like Morpheus. I can only show you the door,

This reminds me of when people claim they don’t understand why people get plastic surgery because it makes people look so bad.

Other people pointed out they appreciated this prose. It’s easy to forget what exactly people are asking for when they talk about regulating the training of machine learning models.

These are just opinions, there is no reason to imagine the phenomenology of qualia is so tightly coupled with creative work and/or making good conjectures. There is a lot of smoke…

Probably not going to pan out well https://arxiv.org/html/2401.10020v1

True I can imagine that kind of thing becoming popular.

Huge market for snake oil here. There is no way that such tools will ever win, given the requirements the art remain viewable to human perception, so even if you made something that worked (which this sounds like it doesn’t) from first principles it will be worked around immediately.

The only real way for artists or anyone really to try to hold back models from training on human outputs is through the law, ie, leveraging state backed violence to deter the things they don’t want. This too won’t be a perfect solution, if anything it will just put more incentives for people to develop decentralized training networks that “launder” the copyright violations that would allow for prosecutions.

All in all it’s a losing battle at a minimum and a stupid battle at worst. We know these models can be created easily and so they will, eventually, since you can’t prevent a computer from observing images you want humans to be able to observe freely.

The US maintaining its lead is a national security issue. Larry Summers is now on the board of OpenAI. The copyright holders are not going to win, or they are, the training will continue anyway, but the technology will be (for now) kept in the hands of the military and IC.

Sure, I’m just saying I’d have expected more artists to say “I know this will harm me financially but as an artist it is the most transcendent kind of success I could have imagined.”

Eg Grimes sees it this way, anyone else? It’s very surprising to me this isn’t a dialectic within the global community of artists. It points to me as a sign that perhaps art has become so intertwined with commercial and financial interests the latent mental models artists have of art have shifted over time, broadly speaking, away from art for art’s sake or art to speak.

If I had a style of coding (whatever that means) and it got embedded into the models in a way that would cause it to echo for eternity long past my death, and was recognized as mine, I would consider it a successful work of art.

See it’s weird since I would consider this a form of immortalization. Some artists are seeing this way, but very few. It seems crazy to me more artists aren’t being amazed that their entire style is now “canon”

Honestly someone should just suggest to him to feed his work through an LLM to dial it down. He might actually go for it.

Full stack engineering begins with philosophy and ends with assembly. Here we go.

no, presuming that other people working on things are both cynical and deceptive; it's projection, imo.

Ultimately cryptography, up to and including the use of decentralized ledgers, will help mitigate some of this, by carving out ground facts that can be mutually agreed upon without risk of AI interference. The people who hate AI the most often hate crypto too, so it will be interesting to see how they resolve this.

It’s on mission to the degree you think it will help the public slowly and naturally become acclimated to agents.

Why are so many HN commenters like this

I took a second to check your links, and as I guessed, at least two of those would be unfairly characterized as "apologists." The fact your bad faith, ad hom post is here at the top of HN is a pretty damning indictment of the current userbase's sobriety when it comes to engineering issues and precise reading of claims.

At the time I wrote this it was prohibitively expensive.

Yeah this might be a better solution now for sure.

the fact that 'serverless' platforms use servers doesn't take away from the fact that the label 'serverless' has useful meaning in describing a kind of platform

you should just start re-writing the word in your head to something less upsetting since it's not going anywhere and it actually does contain information

D1 looks like it could replace R2. Most of the tricky business in p2pcf is dealing with all the ICE details - porting the persistence from R2 to D1 might not be too bad.

Author here. I tried KV first. It didn't work because of replication lag between edge nodes.

At the time I wrote this library using websockets on Cloudflare would have been prohibitively expensive compared to this polling method. Has that changed?

Author here. KV did not provide the consistency guarantees needed for this to work. If you were signaling across two edge nodes, you didn't see candidates until the data was replicated, which took a long time. R2 doesn't have this problem.

Author here, obviously not. The goal of the project isn't to try to solve a problem that can't be solved, it's to reduce the effort needed to set up a WebRTC signaling server. The "P2P" here is referring to the peer network that is established via the signaling.

glad you enjoyed it!

Webspaces[1] is my answer to this call for the 3D web emergent metaverse. It's just HTML that you can host anywhere that is rendered as a 3D multiplayer world via p2p webrtc.

[1] https://webspaces.space

That’s possible but far less likely than the alternative explanation that either this is bunk too or LK-99 contained signal that people dismissed due to a hole in our methodology.