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It is.

"8 r9700 GPUs" is not a consumer-level system.

I think the performance of these models on consumer hardware have a long way to go before abliterated* models have the potential to go mainstream.

Not when it eats into corporate profits!!!1o1o1eon

/s

In a similar scenario though I would imagine there would likely be a similar level of urgency to act quickly that would likely steamroll or sidestep in many ways whatever barriers or considerations such a resolution might enact.

Maybe I'm just jaded but this just seems to be how the world works.

Maybe I'm just jaded but I don't see Big Tech just taking this on the chin.

I imagine tens, even hundreds of millions will be spent on ensuring this resolution never passes. Or if it does pass, those millions go towards lobbying politicians to still somehow find a way to insulate Big Tech as much as possible and externalize their costs onto us.

Re-reading what I just wrote, I'm definitely jaded...

The difference is now they have a trillion dollar company they need to protect so they must pull the ladder up behind them.

Open models become more and more appealing by the day.

So they got “only” ~$3 billion

More companies need to be doing this.

Though they won't, because I imagine recycling/refurbishing is not nearly as profitable as selling new models that lose 25% of their value the moment they're driven off the lot.

And no exec wants to explain to shareholders why their revenue from new model year sales are down 20% because they've cannibalized it with a new but lower-margin revenue stream.

> DoorDash is like cigarettes, gambling, paid pornography

LMAO wat

Conceivably there were considerable technical challenges in bringing touch functionality to market, an R&D cost that gets passed onto consumers. It's not like the touch screen is just being given to us for free.

My point is I'm not sure why everyone needs to pay the premium for a touchscreen in order to get the screen upgrade when touch functionality on a laptop screen is clearly a polarizing feature (judging from the comments on this thread alone) that a minority of consumers actually want or need.

Why are so many people commenting things like "I don't get why people use these services"?

First off, okay that's great but no one is telling you to go use them. You can continue living your life exactly as you were without needing to judge others who live their lives differently from yours.

Second, clearly there are plenty of people who do use them judging from this $17b acquisition that just happened.

But without the new screen, which is genuinely impressive and a noticeable upgrade.

This is truly groundbreaking! I've always wanted to play piano on a 14" screen.

That seems like a great use case for it.

How many Macbook Pro owners are mobile app developers though?

I would think there's a nonzero chance they raise enterprise prices as well... is a big corporation with thousands of employees relying on cloud LLM suddenly going to significantly cut their AI spending due to a 5 or even 10% increase?

Is it wise to believe that once Anthropic (and OpenAI, for that matter) are public, that they won't start looking for ways to improve margins, such as increasing enterprise pricing even by single-digit percentages given it comprises the lion's share of their revenue?

e.g. adding 5% on top of API pricing isn't likely to cause noticeable churn if at all, and yet 5% of a massive number can make a meaningful difference in share price.

Sounds like user error tbh.

Don’t think that refutes their point.

mmmmm....grease

> All of my pros have died within a few years

What are you doing to them?

I still have MBPs from 2015 and 2018 that have not 'died'.

Are today's prices actually the ceiling? OpenAI added a $500 tier pretty recently while lowering capacity for their $200 tier. I wouldn't be surprised to see Anthropic doing something similar soon, particularly once they are a publicly traded company beholden to making shareholders happy.

They also presumably don't want the exploits to fall into the wrong hands.. which might be a slightly less nefarious and equally plausible interpretation of the program.

Probably both things are true.

Either way, consumers ultimately win in that the products and services they use will be made more secure.

Are you implying that most people are getting their news now through HN or Slashdot?

idk I got AOL CDs like every week

That's like if you were in the 90s/00s and you're complaining about having to hear about this "internet" thing all the time.

There is an interesting parallel here with that state's dominant political party espousing 'freedom of speech' but only when it's in their favor.

My point being that ‘image’ models are predominantly trained on ‘images’, not on UIs.

They may be ‘underused’ as you say, but that addresses a different point than the one I’m making.

...you think I'm a bot? lol

Not sure that UI design is necessarily the ideal or even recommended use case for image models.