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Who are these people that are being cancelled, that have "scientific evidence" to contradict the "Progressive views"?

What topics?

> someone with integrity, like Trump

Can you provide some examples of Trump showing integrity? Yesterday he posted an AI slop video of him bombing protestors with poop while wearing a crown, so I'm skeptical.

https://nypost.com/2025/10/19/us-news/trump-posts-wild-ai-vi...

> Their ratings are plummeting which shows their viewers are tired of what they're doing.

Source?

I'm glad you came around to understanding what it is.

I'm not behaving like a kid, I just prefer if people don't whitewash what fascism means, like you did in your previous comment (but not in this one). Muddying the term only helps fascists, whether on purpose or inadvertently.

> If you going to punch people on the street don't complain when you and your friends are under a boot.

Please don't make such assumptions about me, and please don't wish me under a boot. That's rude.

Have a good day.

>Beating people who think different than you is the pretty much facism.

No. Fascism is fascism.

I'd recommend reading Umberto Eco's "Ur-Fascism" if you are interested in learning.

Interesting, thanks.

Kimmel said that Trump fans were trying to distance themselves from the shooter... that is a fact. Could you please share what you mean?

edit to add: also, saying a lie isn't a reason to have FCC license taken away. see: Fox News.

> used often by every administration since.

When else has the FCC chair threatened to take a license away for someone saying something they don't like? Source?

Did Biden's FCC threaten to revoke a license for speech they didn't like? Could you please share a source?

correcting is part of human communication. it happens all the time, nothing personal.

>Biden shutdown the US during COVID.

No. Trump was president during COVID shutdown, which was mainly in 2020.

True. You bring up another data point of similarity between ICE and Gestapo: they are/were both legal.

My issue isn't with just the legality, but with morality.

ICE deports US citizens. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/ice-deported-3-childre...

They're like the gestapo because they act in secret and hide their identities. They arrest dissidents because they say things the administration doesn't like. See Mahmoud Khalil. They're like the gestapo because hateful people get to just make people "illegal" at their own discretion. Half a million Haitians fleeing violence were here under temporary protected status, the executive branch is choosing to make them "illegal" and lying that Haiti is safe now. Half a million people were legal. Now they're "illegal". https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/27/haiti-temporar...

They do not follow due process which is guaranteed by the constitution to all persons in the US (not just citizens).

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2025/jul/13/rosie-odonne... Trump wants to make Rosie O'Donnell "illegal". What are your thoughts on this?

That's a lie. https://www.snopes.com/news/2024/10/16/undocumented-immigran...

People are critical of ICEs practices because they ignore the due process constitutional rights of people in the US (all people in the US not just citizens). They abduct people and send them to foreign gulags where they are tortured. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/02/kilmar-abreg...

You misrepresent ICE by acting like they just fight crime.

> The media pretends that everything is uniquely bad when Trump happens to do it and they turn a blind eye to Democrats doing the exact same stuff. It is exhausting to argue with people who refuse to understand this hypocrisy happening right before their eyes.

Got it. Did Clinton try to gain the presidency despite losing? Did she ask the vice president to "do the right thing" and throw out electoral votes?

That's what Trump did.

They did not do the "exact same stuff".

Given up being a debunked 2020 election conspiracy apologist?

The Steele Dossier was commissioned in 2016, before the election. Trump is claiming the 2020 election was "stolen" well after. Both bad. But not the same.

Trump's allies challenged the election results after losing, 60 times. (edit to add: Challenging, and getting their day in court, is fine! However,) No credible, election-result-changing fraud found. (edit to add: Despite losing in court, they continued to spread debunked conspiracies, and still claimed it was "stolen" without evidence. And still tried to hold on to power, Trump asked Pence to "do the right thing", and declare Trump the winner despite losing. This is the bad part.) Clinton did not challenge the election results after losing. Not the same. Not even close.

> there were many sketchy things going on around mail-in ballots and stuff.

Just because Fox News repeats false claims over and over doesn't make them true. Do you have sources? 2000 mules was debunked. Fox News settled for their false claims against Dominion. Court awarded damages to that one victim who was accused of smuggling a flash drive of "fraudulent votes" or whatever. Don't fall for the firehose of bullshit. Please share what specifically convinced you of this.

>By the way, Hillary and her cronies never accepted the 2016 election.

She conceded. Trump did not concede when he lost the 2020 election. These are facts. Get real.

I suppose you're right. US would come to be known as anti-user-generated-content, as Australia came to be known as a place where the gov can compel companies to make backdoors. Companies would migrate their workforce, servers, etc.. Maybe not the death of the global internet, but not good for the US.

"Australian tech companies have said that the bill could hurt their business overseas, because customers would doubt their promises to protect encrypted data." https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/06/world/australia/encryptio...

This is from your source:

"The findings of the study found that adherence to mask use significantly reduced (95% CI, 0.09-0.77;P5.015)the risk for infection associated with influenza-like illness" https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/c...

"A protective mask may reduce the likelihood of infection, but it will not eliminate the risk, particularly when a disease has more than 1 route of transmission. Thus any mask, no matter how efficient at filtration or how good the seal, will have minimal effect if it is not used in conjunction with other preventative measures, such as isolation..."

Cambridge doesn't say masks don't work. You talk as if masks are as effective as dowsing rods and mask-wearers have been duped.

Imagine flagging an article about section 230 as off-topic for HN...

It would be a disaster for every website with user-generated content, especially smaller ones.

May as well blame a spam filter for letting a phishing email through. The weakest link is human judgement. I wish NYT used a headline like "Another Arrest, and Jail Time, Due to police trusting flawed facial recognition and not doing enough due diligence before arresting"

Absolutely right. They need to have some skin in the game, or otherwise be held accountable if their actions cause harm.

That can't be solved with a software update.

The sitting president and his allies are actively trying to bypass millions of votes by asking state legislatures to appoint electors against the state's voters' will. That's a fact. Well, they did until that didn't work. Then they tried to throw out the electoral votes of four swing states. Trying to bypass an election like this is indeed a coup-attempt! I've got sources and everything! I've put a few sources below but I'm sure you can find more. These attempts to throw out millions of votes is not normal.

DeSantis urged Pennsylvania and Michigan residents to call state lawmakers and urge them to intervene. “Under Article 2 of the Constitution, presidential electors are done by the legislatures and the schemes they create and the framework. And if there’s departure from that, if they’re not following the law, if they’re ignoring law, then they can provide remedies as well,” he said. https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-tr...

Texas, supported by President Trump, tried to sue Pennsylvania, Georgia, Wisconsin and Michigan, claiming fraud, without evidence. https://www.npr.org/2020/12/11/945617913/supreme-court-shuts...

"After waiting over a year to challenge Act 77, and engaging in procedural gamesmanship along the way, they come to this Court with unclean hands and ask it to disenfranchise an entire state," they wrote. "They make that request without any acknowledgment of the staggering upheaval, turmoil, and acrimony it would unleash." --SCOTUS https://www.npr.org/2020/12/08/944230517/supreme-court-rejec...

Same. I've been seeing more "the boot is justified unless proven otherwise, and no I don't need to provide a source; and if it is proven otherwise, I've already lost interest and moved on." and less "innocent until proven guilty." Obviously there's some of both and always has been, but I feel the same as you do.

I remember when a website counting how many days James Clapper has avoided a prison sentence after he gave a false statement was big on the front page a while back.

Just the other day there was a thread about experts identifying an illegal toxin used on protestors in Portland while LE illegally blocks access to storm drains so that further evidence of it cannot be collected.

Both threads pertain to law enforcement overstepping their bounds with impunity and secrecy. The toxic gas one was flagged off the front page despite 125 upvotes in a short time.

https://futurehuman.medium.com/scientists-identified-a-green...

You're blaming the protestors for having illegal toxins used against them? I'm confused.

Using expertise and scientific tests on an unknown object to determine what it is and uncover a contemporary conspiracy? That gratifies one's intellectual curiosity.

Is blocking the collection of samples from a storm drain an extreme measure that's OK? If they're justified, why are they hiding evidence?

"The federal government’s refusal to cooperate with chemical weapons legislation and local lawmakers has further hampered research by CWRC and BES. Federal troops have erected an illegal barricade around the Mark O. Hatfield Courthouse and have refused to allow BES to test the storm drain inside the site, despite the city’s threat to levy a $20,000 penalty against the federal government for every day the barricade stands after September 10."

Using illegal weapons, refusing to follow the law, illegally blocking the collection of evidence, all in the name of Law and Order. What are the odds anyone who injured someone with this illegally-used toxin will face any repercussions?

Justifying this really requires psychopathic cynicism or some serious doublethink.

I was expecting to see a realistic convincing deepfake before the election, but this did happen: a video was faked making it look like Biden addressed a crowd as if they were in a different state. Pretty lame as far as fake videos go, but it plays into the "Biden is senile" narrative...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politic...

"evidence" sourced from tweets, gab dot com posts, infowars(!) and youtube videos aren't good enough for me, and they aren't good enough for the courts... And I'm not dismissing them just because of their sources; a lot of those tidbits have been debunked or thrown out of courts on their merits already