> I was just struggling with a transitional period in my life
Why shouldn't that cause serious depression, and why shouldn't someone need antidepressants for it?
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> I was just struggling with a transitional period in my life
Why shouldn't that cause serious depression, and why shouldn't someone need antidepressants for it?
Loved ones have mental health problems and those reactions just piss me off. If someone has a broken bone sticking out of their leg, nobody questions why they have a hard time walking. If they have a heart attack, nobody questions that they can't go to work today and need medical attention. But when the most powerful, essential organ in the body has a problem - well, just buck up and get over it, which is similar to, 'just buck up and walk off that heart attack'. Or they say, 'I'm depressed sometimes too'; which is like telling someone who is paraplegic, 'my leg falls asleep sometimes too'. 'Why didn't I think of that? I'll just get up out of this wheelchair and walk it off!'
In fact the symptoms of mental health problems sometimes can be just as obvious as broken legs and heart attacks. But because we don't understand the functioning of the brain on a physical level, IMHO people assume that what they don't know doesn't exist; and of course they fear what they don't understand, its implications for them, and don't know how to handle it, so they deny it or minimize it.
I think these questions provide perspective to people: Would you rather be unable to walk the rest of your life, or live feeling true hopelessness the rest of your life? Would you rather be blind, or be unable to form relationships with people and be trapped in isolation? Of course, 'none of the above' is everyone's choice.
If these algorithms become widely used and thus influence important outcomes, then people who like to control power will seek to obtain control of the algorithms, either to protect their interests or to grow their own influence.
As possible examples, politicians who see an algorithm apolitically jail a powerful person might pass a law saying that public service should be weighed more heavily. Law enforcement might want exceptions or special weightings for police officer defendants, or for police officer-given testimony. Powerful social activists will buy the algorithm developers (do you know who is writing these algorithms even now? I don't) as a way of influencing society - the Koch brothers, for example, invest in other areas, such as academia and down-ballot elections (e.g., secretary of state in U.S. states) for society-changing purposes. Special code might even generate special outcomes for particular individuals - who will ever see the code? Who will even ask this question after the sentencing?
If you think such corruption couldn't happen, look around. Brazen corruption happens all the time, especially in state and local government. This will be harder to detect, and will be covered by the excuse that non-technical people will believe: I didn't do it; it was the algorithm! It must be objective!
I think the algorithms ultimately will be a step backward, reducing transparency by hiding the bias in a software development process, in the back room of a software firm, and in a mountain of code. At least legislation is published and voted on in the open.
What is that based on?
That reasoning is just a lazy excuse for oppressing people with viscous, ignorant stereotypes. The generalizations are not only unnecessary, they are wrong and the foundation of much of the evil humanity does. People are individuals, with their own behaviors, beliefs, actions, etc. and that is what they are responsible for; there are good and bad in every house, on every block, in every town in the world. To imagine that you have any knowledge about people spread across continents is absurd, and to even claim it demonstrates an embrace of ignorance. Again, it is the parent comment's behavior that is the problem.
> If enough people within my culture agree those aspects are a great danger then collectively we can outlaw them or otherwise oppose them.
No, if you are in a Western country you cannot outlaw humans based on their supposed "culture". It's illegal in most countries, it is antithetical to freedom and other Western values, and we've been there before. Shall we round up the Jews next? Black-skinned people?
> I am a member of a culture making a value judgement about aspects of another culture
You're not a member of my culture, based on what you say, and the evidence I have is far stronger than the color of your skin or the country where you were born. Can I make value judgements about and ban you? (No.)
IMHO, it is the good and peaceful against the hateful, no matter where they are born.
> If Islam were to become the major culture in the West ... Is that something you'd be ok with?
Absolutely. I want people to follow the religion of their choosing (or none at all, if they prefer); I'm happy for them if they can do that; I will defend their right to do so. That is a fundamental value of Western culture; the freedom of religion is one of the fundamental freedoms in all Western nations.
I wish my country would open its door and encourage Muslims to come and live in freedom here, where they will be loved as neighbors, respected as full citizens, and can worship as they wish without fear.
I don't see much on the technical basics. Which OS? Which other components? Is this an implementation or fork of one of the aforementioned projects? Here are some details on security, but it doesn't really answer my questions:
https://daplie.com/articles/security-security-security/
And for those interested, here is their position on open source (some of their code is, some isn't):
https://daplie.com/articles/is-daplie-open-source/
https://daplie.com/articles/physical-source-an-honest-altern...
What market segment is he talking about, and who are the competitors?
To pick on one point, I don't see educated people or millennials as likely to be better drivers.
> inferior cultures
This is just ignorant, and against the values you claim to promote. Who are you to say what is ignorant? The ignorance is in the parent comment, which contains knowledge only of vicious stereotypes repeated by others.
> Any individual who embraces western liberal values should be welcome, regardless of where they're from.
A test of "values", however that word is defined (vaguely enough to support whatever the parent wants) and however those particular ones are defined (ditto), has never been a condition. Who are you to outlaw other people's "values"? Must we all share yours, or whichever you approve? I think the parent comment is dangerously anti-Western; should the author be allowed to live in Western countries? (Yes.)
* Vim
https://github.com/terryma/vim-multiple-cursors
* Atom (I'm not sure if it's the same functionality)
https://atom.io/packages/multi-cursor
https://www.lynda.com/Web-Development-tutorials/Selections-m...
* Sublime
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/14963775/multiple-cursor...
EDIT: Well it seems like Sublime has had this feature since at least 2012. I suppose I should have considered text editors besides Vim, and I might have known sooner. I'll leave this post in case there are others as narrow-minded as I am ...
But many of our beliefs about them are stereotypes, and one of our values is that individuals should be judged by their actions, not their skin color or nationality.
Also, my preferences are not a basis for law, unless they do significant harm, and not for excluding immigrants. I am not the judge of others; freedom means freedom for others to do things that you don't like - otherwise it's meaningless.
In fact there is a long history of evidence. The Russia defenders love to try to create uncertainty, using these same talking points every time, regardless of the evidence.
I'm not sure how you can count them and say 'most'. Certainly a lot of racism is involved. I've rarely heard many economic analyses or real evidence that provide pragmatic reasons, but that doesn't rule them out.
In my experience, it's the people with the least experience with immigrants who have the most objection to immigration.
> A trickle of immigrants from, for example, east Asia is clearly enriching
I don't know what country you are in, but if you are in the West than East Asian nations certainly do not share your 'values'. Visit one of those countries some time.
But this comment is outright hateful ethnic stereotyping. One essential Western value is to judge people by their actions individuals, not by the color of their skin, their nationality, their sexual preference, etc. Another is liberty, which doesn't mean liberty to do what someone else happens to like.
Every generation of immigrants has the same things said about them: They don't integrate, they speak their own language, they don't share our values, etc. etc. But their kids grow up natives. How sad that you have so little confidence in those values that you don't think they will win over these immigrants just like they've won over every generation of immigrants before them.
That's not true. The candidate that supported immigrants and immigration received more votes in the U.S.; an entire major party is supportive of immigration, as are some members of the other party.
> What would any of you think when 500 people from a far away country were placed near your house? You would experience it as a some kind of problem.
I would not; I would be thrilled for them, proud of our country and community, and I would find out how I could help them. Many others have the same reactions. The U.S., for example, has been welcoming immigrants for its entire history - almost every American is one or is descended from them. Canada was very welcoming of them - look at their pointed response to Trump's immigration policies.
> If we look back in history, we can see that a part of these (mostly male) immigrants are coming from Syria
I don't see how this is related to acceptance of immigrants.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/05/world/europe/france-macro...
This does not match my experience at all. Most people I know of his generation use email heavily.
That gives foreign intelligence agencies license to interfere in your country and others, for they rarely leave proof, if they are any good, and much evidence is classified. Shall we just give them free reign? Is the Russian FSB innocent until proven guilty?
Also, government does R&D on battery tech, I'm pretty sure. Does anyone know how much Tesla directly or indirectly benefits? Finally, they may want to sell to government; fleets of large organizations often are good customers for alternative fuels, because (AFAIK) they can provide and support their own infrastructure. But that is speculative (as is investing!).
The phishing email claims to be from from Google support, and tells the user:
> CHANGE PASSWORD: <https://bit.ly/[deleted]>
That should be enough red flags. Also, the bitly address expands to one in the domain, myaccount.google.com-securitysettingpage.tk
Musk wouldn't be the first to use lobbying to help his business, and so far (a small sample) Trump has used his power much more than past presidents to help and punish businesses he favors/disfavors (e.g., threatening businesses that want to relocate factories, threatening airplane manufacturers, tweeting favorable and unfavorable things about businesses, etc.). Trump has a reputation for corruption, that's factual; that doesn't tell us how true it is or how it applies in this kind of situation or in this particular case. What I'm trying to say is, let's be careful with the facts.
If you search for 'musk trump', you can find plenty of discussion of it. Here's one article from a good source:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/26/business/elon-musk-donald...