happyjack

I think it is awesome that a company is selling Linux laptops AND developing their own OS. On the other hand, I think "oh gosh there goes more fragmentation in Linux UI / desktop world." If System76 has the $ and support to write the software, good on them. I have a Thelio desktop (running RHEL 8) and my wife a laptop running their Pop!OS. Their customer support is outstanding, and I hope that translates into their software projects!

Another nail in the American University casket. I worked in academic research for 3 years, and GTFO. I still have a project here and there with a University, but I largely avoid them.

While I do, in principle, agree with the tenure system, it's just not compatible with what the American University system has become. The system has two systems within it: 1. teach / train / attract students and charge large tuition for promises of them entering the workforce higher than their high school colleagues (and justify the price with parties and college football, new dorms, etc.) 2. perform high end research that is funded by Uncle Sam, in which the Universities' skim 40-120% overhead on (yes, OVER 100%) that pays the bills and keeps the lights on. Also pays for large admin salaries.

Universities are corporations, and are "for profit." I'm not sure free inquiry, free speech, and the likes are compatible with making students feel safe / not offended so they can attract their tuition $, while also attracting $ from Uncle Sam and corporations for research.

You took the words from my mouth. Isn't this obvious?

I run a small consulting firm, and the only people who do the books are myself and another individual. We the file via WebDAV.

I'm not sure how GnuCash would work in a large org.

I use a local cell provider, but get to roam unlimited on ATT & TMobile when I'm out of state. Local cell providers are awesome; amazing service, good service & prices, etc.

The only hiccup I've found is international calls on roaming are insanely expensive. I had a $100 phone call to South America roaming when it would have cost ~$10 in network.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_wireless...

I run my business on GnuCash! It's a great program.

I'll get a lot of flack for this, but I'll speak my mind as to what I think Mozilla needs to do going forward.. I think Mozilla needs to have a rock solid mission statement ("Our mission is to keep the web open blah blah no one controls it blah blah make technologies that make the world better blah blah open blah blah do no harm") and within that, get large corporate clients that foot the bill for legitimate development / tech transfer and solve real problems within the corporate world. The corporate world has protocol issues, privacy issues, ad nausea. Get business clients to pay for that. Within that framework, they can have working groups or community groups whatever that package the browser for Linux distros / Windowz / Mac and push it out. They can even have specialty versions that focus on privacy, media, vanilla versions, add-ons, whatever. When you go to firefox.com as a consumer you get the "corporate" or "vanilla" version. If you're a HN or tech crowd, you'll know where to find your version; whether that's privacy focused, add-on focused, or a specific build for specific operating system or mission.

I think core "user base" is a misnomer in Firefox.

My 2 cents. I know there's a ton to the browser world and my view is just a tiny part of the big picture.

Thanks for the tip! Fortunately, I only get ~25 emails a day. No mailing lists for me!

Hi!

Been running Linux on laptops for years (over a decade). Everything from XPS to Thinkpad and System76.

My first recommendation is to check the Linux distro wiki and see what hardware is officially supported. Ubuntu, RHEL / Fedora, and the major distros have lists and tell you what is officially supported; even sometimes down the the piece of hardware (i.e. Thinkpad fingerprint reader) and precise serial numbers. If you're not going to look at the distros wiki or you're not sure what distro you're going to run, the general rule of thumb is the older the hardware the better chance it is of being supported.

Now, my personal opinions:

I've owned two Thinkpads (x270 & x220), had a dell XPS 13 from work ~4 years ago, and my wife currently owns a System76 Lemur Pro (I have a Thelio Desktop). I've run Ubuntu and RHEL flavored distros on all these. Personally, the Thinkpads blow the Dells and System76 in terms of quality out of the water, and I'd argue they do with hardware support as well (if you're running RHEL / Fedora). The System76 works great with Ubuntu since the drivers and firmware are open (and POP!OS), but I'm not impressed with the quality of the product. Keyboard is low quality, as well as finish (footpads ungluing, finish on keys / track pad coming off, etc.). Dell makes a nice computer, but when I had my XPS 13 there were some major issues with HiDPI (I'm sure it's fixed now). I also didn't like the keyboard and the charging port was finicky.

Gonna be honest, you're going to get a downgrade. Not even just hardware, but software as well. Battery is much worse. Hibernate / suspend / lock is much worse. Linux (GNOME) is still a much better experience on a desktop workstation. Also, for what it's worth, I run RHEL 8 on my desktop workstation, and my next laptop will be a macbook air to pair with my iphone se (first gen!). Everyone's needs are different, but for mobile computing I'd rather have 15 hour battery life, software / hardware harmony, and be able to drive to an apple store for a replacement when my nephew spills apple juice on it when I'm out of town visiting family.

Another thing; supply chains are still really messed up. You're looking at 4+ months lead time for a custom Thinkpad right now. Just something to consider.

Reading through the change log, it looks like CAL/CARD Dav support is native now! Awesome.

It makes me happy that the Thunderbird project keeps going and is getting funding. Granted, I've tried Thunderbird and have used it in the past, but I can't use it as a daily driver. The lack of integration without plugins for CAL/CARD Dav is irritating, and the notifications don't work as well in GNOME.

I can't say I'm in love with Evolution, either, but their restore from backup file and no nonsense approach to email is nice. It's also stable, and although it may not be the best, it is a constant that will likely never change (layout, UI, GNOME integration). It's really nice on RHEL 8 using it for personal and corporate functions all in one with no plugins (read / write, calendar, contacts). It links up to my mailbox.org server no problem.

Email is a weird beast these days. For corporate, you're stuck with whatever your employers tells you to do. For personal, chances are you have a gmail and have 46289902834 unread messages that they auto filter for you in an ads tab (being facetious) and force you to use webmail. In HN world, there is a large divide between the "mutt or die" crowd and the "I don't give a shit, webmail, etc." Maybe if developers cared more about email, the applications would be better? I really don't know. It's just an observation and I may be totally wrong or misread the room.

Although I don't use the client, I applaud the developers and appreciate them keeping the project going, and knowing if I ever have to use MacOS or Windows in addition to RHEL, I have a cross platform option.

Huge win for climate !

https://www.api.org/oil-and-natural-gas/wells-to-consumer/tr...

Just 190,000 more miles to go !

This is completely true. The left had Obama and the whole 9 yards for two years; nothing done. Trump and the Repubs had the whole nine yards for 2 years as well and got nothing done either (besides the tax overhaul). I'm not sure much will ever the change the current situation, honestly.

Both the parties server the same ruler. All the news and "issues" at hand are just distractions to divide and conquer.

This is one of the best comments I've seen on this website about an economic topic.

I agree with you completely; minimum wage is almost a political stunt. Rents will follow the increase, and the gov't gets to collect more payroll taxes. Win win for the ruling class.

The tax structure will have to change for real income to rise. The people who own capitol will have to be tax incentivized to put it to productive uses and have real, long term growth for everyone (capitol owners, workers, society, etc.).

Precisely!

Wyoming, Nevada, South Dakota, or Delaware.

Should USA chip production happen? Probably. But it won't happen without gov't subsidies. US labor is wayy more than some slave in a Foxconn factory trying to commit suicide by jumping off the building (hence the nets). I'm not saying I agree with subsidies, or think the USA should foot the bill, but the honest to god truth is that shareholders and board members WILL not approve of US companies paying for all this. No one wants to see their stock price drop.

How do you remedy this? Create a "National Security" issue and have Uncle Sam fund it. The military has the same playbook https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSJjlaggbK0 .

I run RHEL 7 desktop, because it's what my vendors support (scientific / engineering desktop applications, simulators). I'm about to get a new Thinkpad, and highly considering running Fedora because packages on it weren't written in 2002 (sarcasm) and use it side by side to my RHEL 7 dekstop, even if some of my work applications won't run on it.

Linus is completely correct, though. I think the open source world has gotten way to mixed up with the "free" world. I understand that gcc and some of the HUGE packages are free and open source. They are cost shared by companies and have many people that use them and are maintained well. But other packages with small user bases? His dive example was perfect. Unless someone uses it personally, how can you expect to maintain it unless you pay for it? Or, if the software is paid, how can you expect the company to maintain it for Linux, when their user base is going to be for Mac / Windows?

I think Ubuntu LTS is the most sane approach I've seen. You can get relatively new packages in a pretty stable environment. It's not RHEL stable, and Canonical is starting to care less and less about desktop Linux, but it's not too bad. Ubuntu needs Vanilla gnome option by default, though. Their default look is horrendous. I know I know, it's Linux, you can customize it! Why should I have to waste my time?

I did a 360. I was a GNOME 2 fanboy, switched to FUDUNTU because of GNOME 2 support (before MATE / Cinnamon forks), left GNOME because of Unity, etc., had a macintosh, used Xubuntu.

10 years later I'm on vanilla GNOME and I think it's amazing. Truly perfected.

I ran elementaryOS for a couple years when I worked in research. I switched off when I bought a intel NUC, and the skylake processor platform wasn't supported yet (not their fault) and had to run the latest kernel and never went back.

I like elmentary. It's pretty, works well, etc. One thing that did irritate me was when I had to install something that wasn't "default." A gnome or QT application, and it looked to fugly. Just didn't work.

I with these guys the best. I think what they are doing is really cool, and I admire all the work they've done in vala and what not.

Been thinking the same as OP. I run RHEl on desktop, but have an iPhone. The M1 Macbook looks like an attractive "corporate compatibility layer" when a client wants me to use Office365 or some other crap. Also, the slimness and the insane battery life is attractive. Been on thinkpad keyboards for years, though.

I guess this makes sense. I have a relative in Boston who pays $900 / month for a PARKING SPOT.

Legal minimums :D

My truck is 20 years, though.

You must live in Scandinavia?!?!

1500 / year in insurance! 500 / year in taxes! Wow ...

I pay $12 / month in car insurance, and $130 / year for registration (taxes).

I think the Nike Monarch's are crustier personally.

I'm not sure what Pop!_OS makes you in all honesty. I do know Arch makes you leet / insufferable, and RHEL does in fact make you old, boring, and corporate.

The whole sidecare / iPad for a second monitor would be pretty cool, too.

The New Balance refer to the fact that I'm old and crusty. I work in engineering but am not a software developer (majority of folks here are). Running Red Hat makes you old, too,

I totally feel you on the Apple store part. That's another feature that is very tempting to me. Anything break? Fine, drive straight to the Apple store and get it taken care of.

I'm self employed (engineer, not comp-sci or coder bro) and as my company's revenue grows I am more and more tempted to "treat myself" and integrate more Apple products (I have an original SE phone) for the ease of use and having "corporate" Unix products in the arsenal.

I see new products like these and instantly get excited. It looks so cool! It's thin, the screen is nice, looks like a great product! Maybe I'll quit RHEL on desktop and move on with my life!

Then I see the price, the specs, and the 2 USB type A products clicked into my Thinkpad while I'm out of town helping an older relative. I had a Macintosh a long time ago when in college. Now, I think I'm too far down the RHEL / Thinkpad corporate hole to ever go back, and System76 has ruined my expectations for power on a desktop level (I have a Thelio). Hell, my Thinkpad is 7 years old and the only hiccup is its low screen res.

As pretty as the UI is, I'm not sure I could get used to it from years on stock GNOME and a stint on XFCE.

I might as well start buying New Balance or Nike Monarch's while I'm at it.