I’m 99.999% sure they are just being a dick about the copyright notices :p
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Everything is so sterile and “modern” as others have mentioned.
Otherwise anyone I wanna chat with I have on Telegram. Heh
These have been 7th gen and higher i5/i7 machines and newer J4xxx series celerons.
Haven’t had any AMD kit to compare though.
Yes, iOS is a black box hellscape. Android less so.
And webapps are the epitome of walled garden. The programs literally require a host server to function. All you get is front end.
I take your point on accessibility. And that is the main draw for a lot of people and devs I imagine: I can access the thing I like from nearly anywhere and anything!
And I can respect that. And it has its uses.
My complaint is that this won’t be a choice eventually for most things. It’ll be “use this web version or nothing”.
You are already seeing negative aspects of a lot of this even on desktop programs. Like look at Steam. It’s convenient. People have flocked to it.
If you are offline you lose access to everything. Unless a cached credential is still working.
If you lose access to your account, you’ve lost all your games. Blah blah.
I’ve had personal experiences with this. It blows.
It won’t stop it. People are fine till it happens to them. But then they forget it five seconds later and right back at it.
*aaS is irritating as fuck
But if it’s a desktop app that does desktop things but still requires a network connection for a completely inane reason I don’t use it. I hate that shit. That’s the same sort of awful as a “webapp”.
And I knew people would start with the “that’s actually no different than desktop programs requiring specific versions of the apps or toolkit. Therefore your complaints are invalid.”
Difference here is I can keep my program. And use it via emulation or virtualization if necessary.
Webapps are another trend towards a “you own nothing. You rent everything.” Economy with computer software.
It’s shit.
And I’ll add that webapps /have/ their place. And I obviously use some.
My big gripe is, like with everything with humans, there’s always this push to extremes. It’s not “let’s use webapps where they make sense” it’s “let’s try to convince everyone webapps are perfect and we need everything to be that!!” cough ChromeOS trash
So if it would stay reasonable where traditional and web and even hybrids can coexist that’s fine.
It won’t. It never does. And I am not looking forward to the inevitable future of Always Connected being a requirement for literally everything. And you have to pay monthly fees for every little thing. And you lose access to your supposed data of you let you account lapse briefly. Blah blah.
It’s already happening and if you claim otherwise you are being willfully blind.
But people love the touted “convenience” and eat it up. And poo poo naysayers.
grumpy
Also, “completely offline webapp” is such a damn oxymoron lol.
so... don't get a top end model or undervolt/underclock it if you care that much?
I don't get all the weird complaining about /halo products/ and /highest end models/ potentially using a lot of power and producing a lot of heat.
It's like, OK? and?
People have this weird view of modern chips. Yeah, they /can/ use a lot of power and produce a lot of heat.. Under terrible loads most people dont actually hit for any sustained period. even gaming, you arent going to be pegging all 24 cores.
It isn't going to pull /320w/ all the time. It will periodically, under certain loads, briefly.
My i9-13900K happily slams into 6.4ghz across multiple cores when doing things. And power usage rarely actually hits ~230w doing that. I only ever see absurd power usage under really heavy work loads. Most of the time, itll hit its peaks on a couple of cores when I am doing something and thats that. I would rather slightly higher peak-y power usage for a more performance.
So you end up with piss poor “web apps” that half the time require a specific browser to work remotely well and have kludged “offline” modes that break every other day.
Do not want. I know I’m probably in the minority but it’s damned irritating. The UX on most is atrocious and you have to deal with a complete hodgepodge of interface styles and ideas and designs and also hope your browser keeps running smoothly after trying to use multiple more advanced webapps simultaneously.
Oh, but all these advancements on wasm and all will continue improving performance and fixing problems!!!
… you mean stuff that was already solved with native programs? “But you can work on your stuff from anywhere with just an account!”
Oh, like a native app’s data synchronization?
But but…
It would be nice if we had both and both were equals. But that isn’t the case. It won’t be the case. And most companies see this as a wonderful way to vendor lock in even more than before and implement more and more IAP and subscription crap.
No thanks.
I miss when the web was essentially a document viewer.
It is so damn tiring.
“Oh golly gee guys stop using phones while driving! Tell ya what, we will give you a touchscreen for fucking every other function in the car except actual steering so you won’t have enough spare eye time to look at a phone!!”
… now I want to buy two off eBay to play with. Thanks a lot.
I’ve physically disabled the onStar on my Volt just so there’s no phoning home at all. But it’s damn near impossible to do that on anything newer.
And people eat the shit up.
The capacitive buttons on my Volt are right at the edge of irritating as hell. It’s designed well enough that I don’t completely hate it but it’s borderline. And I refuse to ever have a car that’s all touch screen bullshit.